Topic: My recordings sound muffled... any suggestions?

[Gutbucket]

Bass end is problematic beyond eq, but here's a quick & dirty foobar curve to bring better goodness-

[Panthro10]

Bass end is problematic beyond eq, but here's a quick & dirty foobar curve to bring better goodness-

thanks.. I'll give it a try. there was some type of club (heavy bass) show going on in the room next to the one I was taping in and you could completely hear the bass the whole time. 4 bands played that night, on the others' sets, I had to use the "rumble" eliminator in soundbooth set all the way up to 80Hz just to get it to sound ok.. I'm sure I loose some of the bass from the bands, but it's almost unlistenable to me otherwise

[F.O.Bean]

try recording your stereo and see if the problem is still there!

[Javier Cinakowski]

did anyone listen to the sample?

It sounds like a sub-card recording in a shitty room...  I'm not so sure the problem is the the recording equipment...

[setboy]

did anyone listen to the sample?

It sounds like a sub-card recording in a shitty room...  I'm not so sure the problem is the the recording equipment...

sounds likea bad room. maybe the wrong place in a bad room.

[Gutbucket]

It sounds like a sub-card recording in a shitty room... 

Except that the low bass information is considerably lower in level than would be expected from a recording using sub-cardioids in that situation.  Panthro's explanation of the necessity of applying the 80hz 'rumble eliminator' filter goes a long way toward explaining that anomaly.

[Panthro10]

It sounds like a sub-card recording in a shitty room... 

Except that the low bass information is considerably lower in level than would be expected from a recording using sub-cardioids in that situation.  Panthro's explanation of the necessity of applying the 80hz 'rumble eliminator' filter goes a long way toward explaining that anomaly.

It was not applied to sample that I posted

[bugg100]

25 feet is a LONG way back...  Try a "stack tape" and see if this changes things for you. Basically tape about 5-7 feet from the pa speaker. If you feel this is less muffled, it's time to study mic placement issues. 

Do this before you spend more money on hypers, mods, pres, etc.

Very similar thread ongoing now...
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,122946.0.html

[Ekib]

Have you tried pointing your mic's in the right direction ?
For example my Core Sound Stealthy Cardioid sounds best when they are in a 45 direction. Like in my case they sound best when they are pointing towards C in the picture below. When they are pointing towards B the recording really sounds muffled.

[J.D.S.]

Are these your first mics? Or were you running something before them?
I know when i went from the at933's to busman mics they sounded a bit muffled since the at933s are very bright sounding mics. The busman mics also sounds a lot like the room. when the room sounds bad and the highs are being sucked up and dying really fast, i have gotten some recordings that could be called a bit muffled.

First set of mics..

I don't think it's so much the room, as i think all of my recordings in different rooms have sounded like this..

1) Running screens and if so what type, thickness, and density? This will subtly change the sound. I've found that for my Busman LD mic, if I run it with the screen, it takes a bite out of the presence bump that the card pattern seems to have, while i I run it open, I get that 8-11khz boost (sometimes thats good, sometimes it's not). That might be enough to cause you to notice, might not.

2) Have you taped the same show as someone else (e.g. been on their stand or really close)? Trade for their tape and compare.

No screens. And I have been the only taper at most of the shows I have taped. But I do have a friend who just got his rig up and running (nak 300's > ua-5 > jb3) so I could run some comparisons with him this summer..

i would say do a comp w/ other Busman mic's, running similar gear as you are. not against the Naks. they're a bright mic imo. plus he's running a UA-5 with it and a JB3 which at most can record 44.1/48. you said you're running 24/48. gonna be a difference.

Are you turning on the HPF?

[intpseeker]

did anyone listen to the sample?

It sounds like a sub-card recording in a shitty room...  I'm not so sure the problem is the the recording equipment...

That was my take. I think I've been in that room...or one's just like it.

[Panthro10]

well I recorded the same room last night. I think it sounds a lot better. I used hypers pointed at the stacks. And I was about 10' closer to the stage. I set up right in the middle of the floor. But my battery died like 15 min into the set, and I didn't realize until like 35 min into it.. oh well...

[goodcooker]

well I recorded the same room last night. I think it sounds a lot better. I used hypers pointed at the stacks. And I was about 10' closer to the stage. I set up right in the middle of the floor. But my battery died like 15 min into the set, and I didn't realize until like 35 min into it.. oh well...

welcome to taping You get the right caps and the right location for the room then your batts die....it's always something.

[F.O.Bean]

well I recorded the same room last night. I think it sounds a lot better. I used hypers pointed at the stacks. And I was about 10' closer to the stage. I set up right in the middle of the floor. But my battery died like 15 min into the set, and I didn't realize until like 35 min into it.. oh well...

welcome to taping You get the right caps and the right location for the room then your batts die....it's always something.

No doubt. BUMMER to say the very least