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Iriver 120 dropped samples?
« on: April 15, 2007, 11:01:08 PM »
Just curious if others have experienced this with recent updates?  I recorded a show last night and noticed a missed sample.  Was also recording to DAt so no biggy...but i would like to know if others have this issue or if there is a specific patch to fix that permanently?  ???

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Re: Iriver 120 dropped samples?
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2007, 01:54:47 AM »
Just curious if others have experienced this with recent updates?  I recorded a show last night and noticed a missed sample.  Was also recording to DAt so no biggy...but i would like to know if others have this issue or if there is a specific patch to fix that permanently?  ???
I'm assuming you're using RockBox here...

Can you please specify:
- analog or digital recording
- what rockbox version
- did you see any warning text on the display

If you're using the REP, I think there's another report of recording troubles. I don't use the REP and have so far had no issues at all, so this one may be REP related only. And that version is unsupported...

Please install the current official version of RockBox and see if you can reproduce.
(http://build.rockbox.org/)

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Re: Iriver 120 dropped samples?
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2007, 10:15:26 AM »
Hey petur...I was using rockbox with the REP installed.  I downloaded from Mmmm's link about a week ago.  i was recording digital via optical cable.

So the REP has a missing sample bug?

Can someone please give me a link to a stable build for recording?  I want to stop using my DAT...but I'm glad I ran it as a backup or i would have been screwed.

Also, do i have to wipe Mmmm's build w/ REp off completely first before updating to a current build...or does it overwrite it automatically?

Thanks!

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Re: Iriver 120 dropped samples?
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2007, 11:21:55 AM »
Hey petur...I was using rockbox with the REP installed.  I downloaded from Mmmm's link about a week ago.  i was recording digital via optical cable.

So the REP has a missing sample bug?

Can someone please give me a link to a stable build for recording?  I want to stop using my DAT...but I'm glad I ran it as a backup or i would have been screwed.

Also, do i have to wipe Mmmm's build w/ REp off completely first before updating to a current build...or does it overwrite it automatically?
I honestly don't know... What bitrate were you using?

I have no issues at all with the current official build, that's all I can say.

To install the official build, just unzip it on your h1x0. The location of the rockbox.iriver changed recently, so make sure there is no rockbox.iriver file in the root of your device, the only place allowed now is /.rockbox

Will try to revisit this topic when time is on my side ;)

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Re: Iriver 120 dropped samples?
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2007, 01:43:14 PM »

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Re: Iriver 120 dropped samples?
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2007, 03:43:04 AM »
UPDATE

This discussion has revealed a bug in the SPDIF handling during recording which should now be fixed.
The latest download from http://build.rockbox.org/ now contains this fix, note that current REP is not fixed yet!

Please try and let me know if this fixes your problem.


UPDATE

There wasn't a bug at all...
« Last Edit: April 19, 2007, 05:38:20 PM by petur »

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Re: Iriver 120 dropped samples?
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2007, 07:22:54 AM »
Sorry to ask a silly question, but I too record with a h120 and I uncertain of exactly what REP is / does...  could you guys help me out on this one?
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Re: Iriver 120 dropped samples?
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2007, 07:32:41 AM »
Sorry to ask a silly question, but I too record with a h120 and I uncertain of exactly what REP is / does...  could you guys help me out on this one?
REP = recording Enhancement Pack

It's a set of patches to enhance the recoding screen, iirc it contains a way to increase fontsize and levelmeters, a peakmeter histogram, and maybe some stuff I forgot.

Personally, I don't use it because I see no use for it (I'm the set-and-forget type of user), plus it has the disadvantages:
- always misses the latest bugfixes and extra's because it is build by Mmmm
- officially unsupported

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Re: Iriver 120 dropped samples?
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2007, 07:46:53 AM »
thanks for that!  sounds like it might be a neat thing if it was supported and maintained properly, but like you I too am a set and forget recorder.  Having begun my recording obsession with MD's, I am still in awe of all of the details given on the screen of the RockBox OS, so I think I'll stick with it as well  ;)
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Re: Iriver 120 dropped samples?
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2007, 10:37:53 PM »
I've had that happen.  I'm quite sure in my case it was a funky optical cable between the UA-5 and the H120.  Mine wants just the right cable, without any special adapters for right angles or size.  When I try to use some cables it won't work at all.  When I put in something "just a little bit wrong" I get "skips" of missing music.

That's my observation anyway.
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Re: Iriver 120 dropped samples?
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2007, 11:22:51 AM »
I have had that happen quite often when I first bought the machine.  I have since come to realize that when you delete items off of the H120 and continue using it without reformatting, the HD will read as full at times and skip in places.  I've recently started reformatting after about three shows and have not had a problem since.
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Re: Iriver 120 dropped samples?
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2007, 12:01:20 PM »
I don't think it is the optical cable because I just bought it brand new and this was the first attempt at using it.  I also reformatted my drive a few days prior to the show.

Actually i just defragged it...how do you re-format the drive and what is that actually doing?  Do I have to wipe everything off and then reload it all?

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Re: Iriver 120 dropped samples?
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2007, 01:59:27 PM »
Sorry to ask a silly question, but I too record with a h120 and I uncertain of exactly what REP is / does...  could you guys help me out on this one?
REP = recording Enhancement Pack

It's a set of patches to enhance the recoding screen, iirc it contains a way to increase fontsize and levelmeters, a peakmeter histogram, and maybe some stuff I forgot.

Personally, I don't use it because I see no use for it (I'm the set-and-forget type of user), plus it has the disadvantages:
- always misses the latest bugfixes and extra's because it is build by Mmmm
- officially unsupported


On my last two outings, with my iHP-120, I got:

warning: 000000001

flashing on my record screen.
The recording has dropped samples.

I run the REP too.
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Re: Iriver 120 dropped samples?
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2007, 04:43:39 PM »
y'all have to stop using the obviously faulty rep builds; that's the only way the dropped samples will go away.
i've been using my h120 with a normal non rep build since last summer and have had no dropped samples, ever.
the supported builds are guaranteed to be bit perfect via digi in. 

Does the regular build have the good meters? I guess it's time to go back for me.
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Re: Iriver 120 dropped samples?
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2007, 06:52:38 PM »
Nope...you can't have the fatty meters...but at least your recording will turn out.   ;D

I just switched back today...Hopefully RRE turns out on Tuesday!
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