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Title: How to Say Neutrik
Post by: Chilly Brioschi on June 24, 2009, 05:43:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdIiYaINV4c
Title: Re: How to Say Neutrik
Post by: page on June 24, 2009, 09:29:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdIiYaINV4c

makes sense if you think about it (assuming they are German and follow said rules). Neumann is the same way.

I'm still waiting for the one that rhymes with hope to gain popular ground.  :P
Title: Re: How to Say Neutrik
Post by: willndmb on June 25, 2009, 07:07:59 AM
More importantly, the EMC-XLR could be the answer to cell phone interference!  $7-$9 each is a little high but I'd go for it.
how would the connector make the shield on your cable better?
a chain is only as strong as its weakest link
Title: Re: How to Say Neutrik
Post by: notlance on June 25, 2009, 03:00:42 PM
The EMC-XLR connectors have no active (i.e. requiring power) components.  The LC components (L=inductance, C=capacitance) are integrated in the sense that they are built into the connector.  The Ls, Cs (and probably Rs)  are small surface mounted components that probably create a LP filter of some sort, although I have not done enough investigation to find out the characteristics of that presumed LP filter.
Title: Re: How to Say Neutrik
Post by: notlance on June 26, 2009, 10:26:19 AM
No, I do not think it is snake oil; in fact, I own a few of these.  Based on this information:

http://www.greendotaudio.com/HTMLobj-1160/FXX-EMC.pdf (http://www.greendotaudio.com/HTMLobj-1160/FXX-EMC.pdf)

it appears the connector is filtering above about 100 MHz.  This is the range of FM radio, TV stations, cell phones, and a host of other RF noise.

What I was trying to say is I have not researched this connectors enough to say exactly what the characteristics of the presumed filter is.  The above link clears it up a little.

When I have used these connectors I have not heard any sonic coloration.
Title: Re: How to Say Neutrik
Post by: Chuck on July 02, 2009, 09:28:24 AM
Noy-trick  (Noy pronounced like soy or boy)
Title: Re: How to Say Neutrik
Post by: DSatz on August 28, 2009, 12:32:34 AM
Neutrik is a Swiss company but the name is German so the pronunciation in the video is correct.

willndmb wrote:

> how would the connector make the shield on your cable better? a chain is only as strong as its weakest link

??! The shield isn't what protects you from RFI. A balanced cable in which both signal leads have equal impedance and an even twist will resist RFI even with no shield at all, when feeding a balanced input. The interfering signal reaches the input with equal amplitude in both leads, and being a common-mode signal, it then cancels out. The shield plays no role in that.

The shield is part of the phantom powering circuit and it helps reject hum, buzz and crosstalk from other parallel-running cables as well as from power transformers, etc. that may be nearby. But the cable shield can equally well be a source of interference when it runs between two pieces of AC-powered equipment connected to different branch circuits, or even outlets on the same branch circuit that are some distance apart. Inevitably there will be a potential difference between the chassis of one piece of equipment and the chassis of the other one, and this results in AC current flowing through the shield between them.

The Neutrik EMC connectors are extremely effective at preventing noise due to current induced in the cable shield as well as "pin 1" problems which conduct the 60 Hz shield current into the audio circuitry.

--best regards
Title: Re: How to Say Neutrik
Post by: moooose on August 28, 2009, 07:14:00 AM
Neutrik is a Swiss company but the name is German---- snip.



even more bizarre, Neutrik is from Liechtenstein (yes it exists)     :)
Title: Re: How to Say Neutrik
Post by: DSatz on August 28, 2009, 10:30:04 PM
mooose, my apologies--you're quite right, it is Liechtensteinian rather than Swiss.
Title: Re: How to Say Neutrik
Post by: moooose on August 29, 2009, 04:31:12 AM
no need to apologize! why don't we open a competitor company in the Vatican?
Title: Re: How to Say Neutrik
Post by: Chilly Brioschi on August 29, 2009, 08:44:19 AM
no need to apologize! why don't we open a competitor company in the Vatican?

It all gets stranger...
Vatican is the building, "Holy See" is the actual name of the City-State around it     ;D

Title: Re: How to Say Neutrik
Post by: gratefulphish on October 14, 2009, 12:47:11 AM
no need to apologize! why don't we open a competitor company in the Vatican?

It all gets stranger...
Vatican is the building, "Holy See" is the actual name of the City-State around it     ;D

I believe that you may be incorrect.  The Vatican or Vatican City is considered to be a country, whereas the Holy See is the seat of the Catholic Church, which is in the Vatican.