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Re: 9 volt Lithium Ion battery
« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2004, 01:49:36 AM »
for those still in need of one of these puppies (and i HIGHLY recommend) i just found one cheap on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15055&item=5725796351&rd=1

if no one snaps it up i just may so i have a festival ready rig for next summer :-)...or just an extra kickin around

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Re: 9 volt Lithium Ion battery
« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2004, 01:57:05 AM »
DAMN and an even cheaper one!

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forgot to add the link...thats what 2 am and a devastating red sox loss will do to me  :'(

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5725780334
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Re: 9 volt Lithium Ion battery
« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2004, 02:01:01 AM »
i will end up getting another one here shortly just to have an extra, just in case. those are good prices on Ebay!

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Re: 9 volt Lithium Ion battery
« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2004, 09:03:44 AM »
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5725780334

Note the text in this auction:

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THIS ITEM IS BEING SOLD AS-IS AND MAY NOT BE WORKING
No Returns Will Be Accepted.
Item Condition: Open Box - Parts Missing

May, just may, have something to do with the current high bid of $5.
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Re: 9 volt Lithium Ion battery
« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2004, 12:20:25 PM »
it also says in the text that the battery is in the box, working properly but is missing the cable to connect it to your dvd player. no biggie for our purposes cuz none of us use that cable anyway.

BUT i did a little reseach and im pretty sure this model is a 7.2v.

im thinkin about buyin it just for the car adapter they say it includes. would that charge my 9v walmart one?

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Re: 9 volt Lithium Ion battery
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2004, 07:26:29 PM »
I tested the run-time on the 9v 5400 mAh Model RB-270 battery I bought at Walmart.
I ran an Apogee Mini-Me with phantom power "on" connected to my Studio Projects C-4's plus powering my Denon DTR-80p running tape for 4.5 hours. Almost as soon as I started running, the first green light went out, indicating below 75% charged. At 1.25 hours the second green light went out indicating below 55% charged. At 4.25 hours the third light went out indicating below 30% charged. At approx. 4.5 hours both the Mini-Me and the DAT deck shut off.

This is great news to me. I can record almost any show using the RB-270 to power my whole rig.
Next, I want to test it using my Josephsons microphones, to see if that makes any difference.

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Re: 9 volt Lithium Ion battery
« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2004, 07:28:13 PM »
sweet!

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Re: 9 volt Lithium Ion battery
« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2004, 12:44:28 PM »
One weird things is, when my LiON is charging the red charge LED blinks green and red partway through.
Does anyone else notice that on their battery when it's charging?
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Re: 9 volt Lithium Ion battery
« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2004, 10:53:17 PM »
is this thing really that much smaller than a 6V ecocharge? Looks like about the same size, not sure if I will be saving any significant space by using this thing over my trusty ecocharge battery. Any thoughts?

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Re: 9 volt Lithium Ion battery
« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2004, 01:02:36 AM »
is this thing really that much smaller than a 6V ecocharge? Looks like about the same size, not sure if I will be saving any significant space by using this thing over my trusty ecocharge battery. Any thoughts?

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The 9v lithium is about 2/3 the size of the 6v.  Comparing to a 6v 7Ahr SLA battery (not the ecocharge, just a battery), the length and height are about exactly the same -- 6" x 3.6" (an ecocharge with the plastic top will be even larger).  The width of the lithium is only about 0.9" compared to the 6V SLA at about 1.35". 

The big saving will be the weight though.  The SLA is about 3 pounds, the lithium only 10 or 12 ounces.  The real world capacity of these is fairly close, but the SLA probably has around 10% more.  SLA capacity goes down fairly significantly at high current draws, probably 10 or 15 percent.  I don't think lithiums suffer from this problem.  So with an 850ma to 1000ma draw, the 7.0Ahr SLA will only have about 6.0Ahr, compared to the 5.4Ahr lithium.

Of course, for those people who would need a 12v SLA rather than a 9v lithium (eg, for a UA5 say), there will be much bigger savings for the lithium.

Anyway, all that said, I'm withholding judgement until I can put the lithiums through the paces.  I've bought a few to replace my SLAs.  Pretty much had to -- I had 2 of my 4 SLAs die recently, reached their maximum cycle life.  Found out the hard way (dying prematurely at a show) that the SLAs had reached the end of their life and were no longer holding a full charge.  Now I don't trust my remaining two SLAs which I got at more or less the same time (and have been rotating all 4 for use in my rig).  So for now, I'm running the lithiums exclusively.  We'll see how many shows/cycles they last.

I am loving the small, light bag though.  ;D
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Re: 9 volt Lithium Ion battery
« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2004, 09:21:39 AM »
Yup, Todd is right.
I used to haul 12v SLA's. Trust me, haul that weight, sucked!
Now I travel light with the LiION. Like Todd, I still have the SLA's around just in case a problem with the LiION arises.
I'm going to keep the last SLA for festivals and eventually use it in my computer UPS.
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Re: 9 volt Lithium Ion battery
« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2004, 10:44:56 PM »
Would it be in the camera department or what?
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Re: 9 volt Lithium Ion battery
« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2004, 10:45:38 PM »
at every wal-mart here it is in the electronics dept. right next to the portable dvd players

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Re: 9 volt Lithium Ion battery
« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2004, 10:47:18 PM »
at every wal-mart here it is in the electronics dept. right next to the portable dvd players

same here
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Re: 9 volt Lithium Ion battery
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2004, 01:40:43 PM »
Would it be in the camera department or what?

The walmart lion battery is next to the portable dvd players.
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