Author Topic: Leegeddy 'bumblebee' silver clad cable review :) (Read 34164 times)

F.O.Bean · « **on:** February 28, 2005, 12:48:29 AM »

ok, so i know nickspicks was/is writing a review, but i thought id give my input after running them for a few weeks and about 6-7 shows

so here goes:

after running audio magic xstreams for 6 solid years, i have something decent to compare them too

first off, the bass is soo good and punchy, it has a sound of its own thru the 480's and the v3, sounds really different from the xstreams, the xstreams were a bit 'thinner' and maybe a bit more crisp in the high end, but these have GREAT highs/mids/lows IMO, the bass is tight and more present in the mix than im used to w/ the xstremas also

a great soundstage too, really wide and open doing hypers/DIN, great imaging and an overall 'smooth blanket' that i really like so far, and these prolly still only have 80 hrs on them, cant wait till they get really burnind in

the am xstreams are a great product, dont get me wrong, but since the raw cable of the bumblebee's looks almost identical to audio magic's hyperconductors, i bet theyre sound is similar to, and theyre a step above the xstreams

so fwiw, i highly recomend these cables, and they were built w/ the utmost quality products and very reliable looking solder joints

so for anyone who wants to spend some $$ on some nice silver clad mic cables and wants them custom done, i would say marc is your man!

thanks again marc,
bean

Mojowill · « **Reply #1 on:** February 28, 2005, 02:34:54 AM »

heres a non technical review on the cables.

GREAT!

leegeddy · « **Reply #2 on:** February 28, 2005, 02:49:24 PM »

Quote from: Bean on February 28, 2005, 12:48:29 AM

a great soundstage too, really wide and open doing hypers/DIN, great imaging and an overall 'smooth blanket' that i really like so far, and these prolly still only have 80 hrs on them, cant wait till they get really burnind in

beany;
thanks for the review. i told ya you'll hear that wide soundstage, didn't i?

marc

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #3 on:** February 28, 2005, 02:58:39 PM »

Quote from: leegeddy on February 28, 2005, 02:49:24 PM

Quote from: Bean on February 28, 2005, 12:48:29 AM
a great soundstage too, really wide and open doing hypers/DIN, great imaging and an overall 'smooth blanket' that i really like so far, and these prolly still only have 80 hrs on them, cant wait till they get really burnind in

beany;
thanks for the review. i told ya you'll hear that wide soundstage, didn't i?

marc

the bass response is the most improved thing IMO, but the imaging/soundstage isnt too shabby either

for people running 'regular' cables, if ya have a decent rig, you HAVE TO switch to something better, its amazing what you'll hear that you never heard before, like simple strikes of guitar strings even at loud rock shows

BCostigan · « **Reply #4 on:** February 28, 2005, 05:46:00 PM »

Just got a pair of these as interconnects and they are as good as everyone has said! The easily rivial my $150/pair blue truths! The thing I like most about these cables is that they are each hand made with an obvious attention to detail!

Tim · « **Reply #5 on:** February 28, 2005, 06:27:57 PM »

hmmmmmmm...... I was itching to try some new speaker cables....

PM sent

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #6 on:** February 28, 2005, 06:36:29 PM »

Quote from: Tim on February 28, 2005, 06:27:57 PM

hmmmmmmm...... I was itching to try some new speaker cables....

PM sent

do eeet tim, you will not be dissappointed, trust me

Tim · « **Reply #7 on:** February 28, 2005, 07:23:30 PM »

I sent him a PM, it will really depend on price... unfortunatley I need a lot of speaker cable as my amp is not between my speakers but rather is set off to one side... I need at least 10'.

good speaker cable at that length is expensive...

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #8 on:** February 28, 2005, 07:24:54 PM »

Quote from: Tim on February 28, 2005, 07:23:30 PM

I sent him a PM, it will really depend on price... unfortunatley I need a lot of speaker cable as my amp is not between my speakers but rather is set off to one side... I need at least 10'.

good speaker cable at that length is expensive...

you are correct

twoodruff · « **Reply #9 on:** February 28, 2005, 08:44:48 PM »

Quote from: Tim on February 28, 2005, 07:23:30 PM

I sent him a PM, it will really depend on price... unfortunatley I need a lot of speaker cable as my amp is not between my speakers but rather is set off to one side... I need at least 10'.

good speaker cable at that length is expensive...

but oh so worth it

Tim · « **Reply #10 on:** February 28, 2005, 08:49:43 PM »

Quote from: bigwoolmam on February 28, 2005, 08:44:48 PM

Quote from: Tim on February 28, 2005, 07:23:30 PM
I sent him a PM, it will really depend on price... unfortunatley I need a lot of speaker cable as my amp is not between my speakers but rather is set off to one side... I need at least 10'.

good speaker cable at that length is expensive...

but oh so worth it

just ordered a pair from Marc...

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #11 on:** February 28, 2005, 08:52:32 PM »

Quote from: Tim on February 28, 2005, 08:49:43 PM

Quote from: bigwoolmam on February 28, 2005, 08:44:48 PM
Quote from: Tim on February 28, 2005, 07:23:30 PM
I sent him a PM, it will really depend on price... unfortunatley I need a lot of speaker cable as my amp is not between my speakers but rather is set off to one side... I need at least 10'.

good speaker cable at that length is expensive...

but oh so worth it

just ordered a pair from Marc...

i knew he'd take care of ya for a great price!

twoodruff · « **Reply #12 on:** February 28, 2005, 08:56:57 PM »

be on the lookout for the Bumblebee power cords with heavy guage silver clad cables, I will be the first one trying it out at home, look very forward to it, will post pics as the cord becomes available, I believe marc has a few more issues to work out

JackoRoses · « **Reply #13 on:** February 28, 2005, 08:58:18 PM »

I have these on my list to buy, of course I am taking handouts as well

Anywho.
Has anyone ran Zoalla's and now use these? Can you give any kind of comparison
if so? I imagine these are better sounding, yet still like to hear others views.
Might have something to look for during my A/B when it happens.

Tim · « **Reply #14 on:** February 28, 2005, 09:02:38 PM »

Quote from: bigwoolmam on February 28, 2005, 08:56:57 PM

be on the lookout for the Bumblebee power cords with heavy guage silver clad cables, I will be the first one trying it out at home, look very forward to it, will post pics as the cord becomes available, I believe marc has a few more issues to work out

WOW! that would be fantastic....

Brian · « **Reply #15 on:** February 28, 2005, 09:05:34 PM »

Ha! I just ordered a pair of bumblee xlr's.

marc owns our wallets

Tim · « **Reply #16 on:** February 28, 2005, 09:06:52 PM »

Quote from: S_TL-Taper on February 28, 2005, 09:05:34 PM

marc owns our wallets

rotflmao

+T!!!!!!!

Tim · « **Reply #17 on:** February 28, 2005, 09:07:54 PM »

all your wallets are belong to leegeddy

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #18 on:** February 28, 2005, 09:10:49 PM »

Quote from: Tim on February 28, 2005, 09:07:54 PM

all your wallets are belong to leegeddy

so how many pairs of these have you sold

its got to be getting up there since the first few of us had them

youve come a long way in a few weeks w/ them

Brian · « **Reply #19 on:** February 28, 2005, 09:12:27 PM »

Quote from: Tim on February 28, 2005, 09:07:54 PM

all your wallets are belong to leegeddy

i'm happy to help pay for marc's bills. sooner or later his cables will help pay for mine

backatcha tim.

Tim · « **Reply #20 on:** February 28, 2005, 09:13:47 PM »

I'm definitely not complaining...

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #21 on:** February 28, 2005, 09:19:05 PM »

marc, you should seriously throw up a webpage and have some prices on there

im sure a few of us would be happy to put a quick review of your cables and their quality on there

including myself

leegeddy · « **Reply #22 on:** February 28, 2005, 09:20:13 PM »

Quote from: Bean on February 28, 2005, 09:10:49 PM

Quote from: Tim on February 28, 2005, 09:07:54 PM
all your wallets are belong to leegeddy

so how many pairs of these have you sold

its got to be getting up there since the first few of us had them

youve come a long way in a few weeks w/ them

LOL!!! i'm up to 6 or 7 now. you, dustin, will, stlouis, trey (shorties) and 2 others. hell, i just bought Mark S's sbm and picked up few more pieces of gear....so the money goes right back into this damn hobby of ours!!!

"Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in"

marc

Brian · « **Reply #23 on:** February 28, 2005, 09:21:02 PM »

nah keep it low key i say

leegeddy · « **Reply #24 on:** February 28, 2005, 09:23:44 PM »

Quote from: S_TL-Taper on February 28, 2005, 09:21:02 PM

nah keep it low key i say

yup. i don't want to get out of hand. i DO have that great day job (p0rn film technical advisor).

marc

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #25 on:** February 28, 2005, 09:30:12 PM »

NICE!

i feel ya there, now i feel more exclusive

i am not the best on sarcasm, is that really your job

Tim · « **Reply #26 on:** February 28, 2005, 09:55:17 PM »

it could get out of hand *quick*

but if you ever want to make some fast money....

EDIT to say thanks, I'm really excited about these...

Mojowill · « **Reply #27 on:** February 28, 2005, 10:22:28 PM »

just feeding the habit

leegeddy · « **Reply #28 on:** March 01, 2005, 03:46:05 PM »

please buy my cables... i need to feed my addiction to Trey W's cigars!!

marc

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #29 on:** March 01, 2005, 03:50:01 PM »

Quote from: leegeddy on March 01, 2005, 03:46:05 PM

please buy my cables... i need to feed my addiction to Trey W's cigars!!

marc

twoodruff · « **Reply #30 on:** March 01, 2005, 04:28:35 PM »

Quote from: leegeddy on March 01, 2005, 03:46:05 PM

please buy my cables... i need to feed my addiction to Trey W's cigars!!

marc

the quality of the cables is def on par with the quality of the cigars

Brian · « **Reply #31 on:** March 01, 2005, 05:01:04 PM »

ok check it folks.

marc and i arranged a deal yesterday for a pair of 20' footers. today he sent the cables and I sent the MO. and at his price you just can't beat this kind of service.

We should all be truly blessed that Marc is so cool, builds quality products, and has excellent service.

You RAWK Marc \m/

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #32 on:** March 01, 2005, 05:24:51 PM »

Quote from: S_TL-Taper on March 01, 2005, 05:01:04 PM

ok check it folks.

marc and i arranged a deal yesterday for a pair of 20' footers. today he sent the cables and I sent the MO. and at his price you just can't beat this kind of service.

We should all be truly blessed that Marc is so cool, builds quality products, and has excellent service.

You RAWK Marc \m/

brian-i got 20' cables too, you'll be amazed at how small they roll up

literally a 7" diameter

Brian · « **Reply #33 on:** March 01, 2005, 05:31:16 PM »

that's about as small as i can get my 20' pair audio magic hypers. now i got 2 pair of silver xlrs

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #34 on:** March 01, 2005, 05:32:58 PM »

Quote from: S_TL-Taper on March 01, 2005, 05:31:16 PM

that's about as small as i can get my 20' pair audio magic hypers. now i got 2 pair of silver xlrs

wll, personally, i think theyre the EXACT same cable, so that would sound right that they roll up the same size

only im sure you saved a bunch of money

Brian · « **Reply #35 on:** March 01, 2005, 05:39:40 PM »

Quote from: Bean on March 01, 2005, 05:32:58 PM

only im sure you saved a bunch of money

yeah no kidding. makes me wonder how much money nutter got from me out of that deal

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #36 on:** March 01, 2005, 05:41:55 PM »

Quote from: S_TL-Taper on March 01, 2005, 05:39:40 PM

Quote from: Bean on March 01, 2005, 05:32:58 PM
only im sure you saved a bunch of money

yeah no kidding. makes me wonder how much money nutter got from me out of that deal

him and AM prolly got a nice chunk

Brian · « **Reply #37 on:** March 01, 2005, 05:51:05 PM »

well of course am would, and that's fine. i'm more concerned about how much nnutter got....... no matter. I was prepared to pay that price then. so be it as they say.

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #38 on:** March 01, 2005, 05:52:04 PM »

now ya know where to get them cheaper!

Tim · « **Reply #39 on:** March 01, 2005, 05:52:35 PM »

Quote from: S_TL-Taper on March 01, 2005, 05:01:04 PM

ok check it folks.

marc and i arranged a deal yesterday for a pair of 20' footers. today he sent the cables and I sent the MO. and at his price you just can't beat this kind of service.

We should all be truly blessed that Marc is so cool, builds quality products, and has excellent service.

You RAWK Marc \m/

I'm mailing him a MO tomorrow... he'll have the cables ready to ship when it arrives. a great deal....

leegeddy · « **Reply #40 on:** March 01, 2005, 06:09:27 PM »

Quote from: S_TL-Taper on March 01, 2005, 05:39:40 PM

Quote from: Bean on March 01, 2005, 05:32:58 PM
only im sure you saved a bunch of money

yeah no kidding. makes me wonder how much money nutter got from me out of that deal

as a defense of retailers out there, i'm sure their overheads are much higher than mine...which is essentially zero, for this is purely a joyous hobby.

marc

Brian · « **Reply #41 on:** March 01, 2005, 06:11:47 PM »

good point, marc. the difference is quite substantial though

JackoRoses · « **Reply #42 on:** March 01, 2005, 06:29:07 PM »

Quote from: leegeddy on March 01, 2005, 06:09:27 PM

Quote from: S_TL-Taper on March 01, 2005, 05:39:40 PM
Quote from: Bean on March 01, 2005, 05:32:58 PM
only im sure you saved a bunch of money

yeah no kidding. makes me wonder how much money nutter got from me out of that deal

as a defense of retailers out there, i'm sure their overheads are much higher than mine...which is essentially zero, for this is purely a joyous hobby.

marc

speaking of, can the potential buyers get a price lock for the next X months by chance

thanks for the contributions and allowing us another choice.

leegeddy · « **Reply #43 on:** March 01, 2005, 06:55:23 PM »

Quote from: jackorose on March 01, 2005, 06:29:07 PM

Quote from: leegeddy on March 01, 2005, 06:09:27 PM
Quote from: S_TL-Taper on March 01, 2005, 05:39:40 PM
Quote from: Bean on March 01, 2005, 05:32:58 PM
only im sure you saved a bunch of money

yeah no kidding. makes me wonder how much money nutter got from me out of that deal

as a defense of retailers out there, i'm sure their overheads are much higher than mine...which is essentially zero, for this is purely a joyous hobby.

marc
speaking of, can the potential buyers get a price lock for the next X months by chance
thanks for the contributions and allowing us another choice.

lock in a price??? for the MiAGi-II cables???

i don't plan on modifiying the prices, if that's your concern.

marc

Ray76 · « **Reply #44 on:** March 01, 2005, 07:00:13 PM »

Quote from: leegeddy on March 01, 2005, 06:55:23 PM

Quote from: jackorose on March 01, 2005, 06:29:07 PM
Quote from: leegeddy on March 01, 2005, 06:09:27 PM
Quote from: S_TL-Taper on March 01, 2005, 05:39:40 PM
Quote from: Bean on March 01, 2005, 05:32:58 PM
only im sure you saved a bunch of money

yeah no kidding. makes me wonder how much money nutter got from me out of that deal

Marc, whats up man, ive pmd you like 80 times!!ok, well like 2...
contact a brotha, !!!
Ray
as a defense of retailers out there, i'm sure their overheads are much higher than mine...which is essentially zero, for this is purely a joyous hobby.

marc
speaking of, can the potential buyers get a price lock for the next X months by chance
thanks for the contributions and allowing us another choice.

lock in a price??? for the MiAGi-II cables???

i don't plan on modifiying the prices, if that's your concern.

marc

adventuregeorge · « **Reply #45 on:** March 01, 2005, 07:58:20 PM »

I got a pair from Marc last week. Superb and I mean outstanding quality!!. Shipped SUPER FAST too!!!!

Thanks Marc

barrettphisher · « **Reply #46 on:** March 01, 2005, 11:49:03 PM »

I had marc make me a pair of XLR>RCA 6ft with rt angle connectors and they came fast and were of superb workmanship...This man knows how to make quality cables....
Barrett

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #47 on:** March 01, 2005, 11:54:55 PM »

Quote from: barrettphisher on March 01, 2005, 11:49:03 PM

I had marc make me a pair of XLR>RCA 6ft with rt angle connectors and they came fast and were of superb workmanship...This man knows how to make quality cables....
Barrett

qft, i went to electronics school and could prolly never solder that well

the magoo · « **Reply #48 on:** March 04, 2005, 03:55:18 AM »

after seein beans cables and hearin them, on craftsmanship and added clearity.....specially in bass response and crisp mids, i say bravo my friend, bravo

Goo

Brian · « **Reply #49 on:** March 04, 2005, 11:13:53 AM »

i just got mine in the mail yesterday. these are the coolest cables evah! the tech-flex outer shell is the tops

Massive Dynamic · « **Reply #50 on:** March 04, 2005, 01:28:52 PM »

Are y'all running your cables directly from your mics into your pre/A/Ds? I'm really tempted to get a pair, but I have a PS-2 > line transformers > y-adapter between my mics and deck. Would all that copper/nickel dull the cables' sound improvements?

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #51 on:** March 04, 2005, 01:58:11 PM »

Quote from: Spaceman S/PDIF on March 04, 2005, 01:28:52 PM

Are y'all running your cables directly from your mics into your pre/A/Ds? I'm really tempted to get a pair, but I have a PS-2 > line transformers > y-adapter between my mics and deck. Would all that copper/nickel dull the cables' sound improvements?

def wouldnt dull the sound, it could only improve it

leegeddy · « **Reply #52 on:** March 04, 2005, 07:20:04 PM »

Quote from: S_TL-Taper on March 04, 2005, 11:13:53 AM

i just got mine in the mail yesterday. these are the coolest cables evah! the tech-flex outer shell is the tops

brian;

let us know how they sound in your recordings.
+t for a smooth deal.

marc

John R · « **Reply #53 on:** March 04, 2005, 07:40:07 PM »

marc, do you have any ra 12v v3 cables prepared? i'm coming up tomorrow, and would pick one up if so.

jr

Brian · « **Reply #54 on:** March 04, 2005, 07:46:01 PM »

Quote from: leegeddy on March 04, 2005, 07:20:04 PM

Quote from: S_TL-Taper on March 04, 2005, 11:13:53 AM
i just got mine in the mail yesterday. these are the coolest cables evah! the tech-flex outer shell is the tops

brian;

let us know how they sound in your recordings.
+t for a smooth deal.

marc

backatcha marc. i'm burning them in at home as we speak

If they sound anywhere near as good as my am hypers sounded last night at this orchestral recording session, i'll be pumped! and from what i've heard they probably will

neutral/clean microphones > silver xlrs > 24 bit for acoustic music = bliss

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #55 on:** March 05, 2005, 12:47:06 AM »

aNother great nite w/ the MiAGi's

the worst room in pittsburgh actauuly sounds really good, except the vocal mix was shit at the show, but musically, WOW

leegeddy · « **Reply #56 on:** March 05, 2005, 12:53:40 AM »

Quote from: Bean on March 05, 2005, 12:47:06 AM

aNother great nite w/ the MiAGi's

the worst room in pittsburgh actauuly sounds really good, except the vocal mix was shit at the show, but musically, WOW

but the question is "is there a good sounding room in P'burgh?"

marc

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #57 on:** March 05, 2005, 12:57:30 AM »

Quote from: leegeddy on March 05, 2005, 12:53:40 AM

Quote from: Bean on March 05, 2005, 12:47:06 AM
aNother great nite w/ the MiAGi's

the worst room in pittsburgh actauuly sounds really good, except the vocal mix was shit at the show, but musically, WOW

but the question is "is there a good sounding room in P'burgh?"

marc

mr smalls sounds decent, and the club cafe sounds pretty good, but they souck about taping

rosebud is alright

byham theatre rocks, the only great sounding room in the burgh tho

my moe tapes from 11/6/04 are pretty highly regarded to most folks i gave them to, which is cool w/ me, glad i could help folks out

ran cards in there too

leegeddy · « **Reply #58 on:** March 05, 2005, 12:58:14 AM »

Quote from: Spaceman S/PDIF on March 04, 2005, 01:28:52 PM

Are y'all running your cables directly from your mics into your pre/A/Ds? I'm really tempted to get a pair, but I have a PS-2 > line transformers > y-adapter between my mics and deck. Would all that copper/nickel dull the cables' sound improvements?

you can easily run MIC > MiAGi-II > ps2 > ......

are you running Hosa MIT-176 xformers? if so, i can easily get rid of those 1/4" pigtails > Y-adaptor for ya to clean up the signal chain.

marc

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #59 on:** March 08, 2005, 01:24:19 AM »

just wondering what others thought of these fine cables

anybody? bueller?

John R · « **Reply #60 on:** March 08, 2005, 04:07:44 AM »

Quote from: Bean on March 08, 2005, 01:24:19 AM

just wondering what others thought of these fine cables

anybody? bueller?

i have the prototypes ready to ship back. although i didn't get a chance to use them, the materials and construction are top notch.

jr

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #61 on:** March 12, 2005, 12:45:18 AM »

so, any of you other geeks want to write a review yet

i want to hear others' opinions guys

BCostigan · « **Reply #62 on:** March 12, 2005, 09:16:24 AM »

Quote from: Bean on March 12, 2005, 12:45:18 AM

so, any of you other geeks want to write a review yet

i want to hear others' opinions guys

I'm still breaking in my interconnects...got em going to the TV at the moment just to get them broken in before I put them through some critical listening. I'll post a review in a week or two.

Brian · « **Reply #63 on:** March 12, 2005, 10:09:09 AM »

i have mine burned in. they are just waiting to be used. I have a session this week so they will definitely get some use then. Drum overheads, acoustic guitars, vocals, etc.

Not sure when I'm taping a show again. I have yet to "tape" a show all year $:-\$

Sterling · « **Reply #64 on:** March 20, 2005, 02:59:22 PM »

Check the kickdown section. I have a comparison of these cables against canare starquad homebrews. Not the best comparison but it should do the job until someone does a better one. LMK.

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=38270.0

SS

Chuck · « **Reply #65 on:** March 29, 2005, 10:53:34 AM »

Does anyone have photos of these cables?

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #66 on:** March 30, 2005, 02:01:55 AM »

Quote from: Chuck on March 29, 2005, 10:53:34 AM

Does anyone have photos of these cables?

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=35716.0

JackoRoses · « **Reply #67 on:** March 30, 2005, 05:46:41 AM »

has anyone noticed any sensitivity to these cables?
Like they get tapped you can hear a crack/pop in the recording?
I found several pops through a show I pulled down on Friday night.
1 was in the right channel only, 1 was in both channels. I am not really
blaming any one componenet as of yet. I have a show to listen to from Saturday night
and I want to see how it compares. First time I get clicks in my pulls and it was the first time
running the cables. It could of been from the stand being bumped or something else
too. I need to ask swampy if he picked up anything, since he was clamped. to my stand.
I know if I would lay a good thwack down on my zoallas I could hear it.
I have to at least investigate a little as to why I hear a pop , these cables are pretty dam sweet though.
Or maybe I need to look at this way, these cables open the spectrum up so much, maybe I just am now hearing a pop which has been there all along?

leegeddy · « **Reply #68 on:** March 30, 2005, 02:21:14 PM »

Quote from: jackorose on March 30, 2005, 05:46:41 AM

has anyone noticed any sensitivity to these cables?
Like they get tapped you can hear a crack/pop in the recording?
I found several pops through a show I pulled down on Friday night.
1 was in the right channel only, 1 was in both channels. I am not really
blaming any one componenet as of yet. I have a show to listen to from Saturday night
and I want to see how it compares. First time I get clicks in my pulls and it was the first time
running the cables. It could of been from the stand being bumped or something else
too. I need to ask swampy if he picked up anything, since he was clamped. to my stand.
I know if I would lay a good thwack down on my zoallas I could hear it.
I have to at least investigate a little as to why I hear a pop , these cables are pretty dam sweet though.
Or maybe I need to look at this way, these cables open the spectrum up so much, maybe I just am now hearing a pop which has been there all along?

hmm... pls. keep us updated with this.

i've ran the cables few times and had no such experience. does it sound like someone tapping the cable and your mic is picking up the sharp vibration or does it sound like an electronic "pop"?

marc

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #69 on:** March 30, 2005, 02:57:21 PM »

i taped my cables to theground l;ast week and folks were stepping all overthem, has tobe something else, was your gain CRANKED

The Kilted Taper · « **Reply #70 on:** March 30, 2005, 03:29:10 PM »

Hoping to get a set of these to go from the Franken Naks. Marc, you are a busy busy man!

JackoRoses · « **Reply #71 on:** March 30, 2005, 06:35:34 PM »

Quote from: Bean on March 30, 2005, 02:57:21 PM

i taped my cables to theground l;ast week and folks were stepping all overthem, has tobe something else, was your gain CRANKED

not at all, I think it might have been at 1 o clock, for sure nothing higher then that.
The lowest would of been 12 o clock setting.
I still have to listen over my Sat. night pull to see if it is repeatable.
I will keep this updated, I was thinking optical cable, seems like those are the
most suspectible culprit, yet I think if it was the cable , it would be everywhere in the recording
and not just in a few spots.
I wrote down the time on the one click, I have to check the others again.
It is more of a pop then a vibration. I will try and get some more critical listening time in.

goose · « **Reply #72 on:** March 31, 2005, 12:28:21 AM »

In my experience, cable handling noise does not sound like popping. I have heard handling noise on my mics previously, and it sounded much like wind noise, in that it was a deep bass sound. In my opinion, popping noise would be something other than mic (or cable) handling noise. I would check the other possible sources first.

.02 cents

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #73 on:** March 31, 2005, 02:46:16 AM »

Quote from: jackorose on March 30, 2005, 06:35:34 PM

Quote from: Bean on March 30, 2005, 02:57:21 PM
i taped my cables to theground l;ast week and folks were stepping all overthem, has tobe something else, was your gain CRANKED
not at all, I think it might have been at 1 o clock, for sure nothing higher then that.
The lowest would of been 12 o clock setting.
I still have to listen over my Sat. night pull to see if it is repeatable.
I will keep this updated, I was thinking optical cable, seems like those are the
most suspectible culprit, yet I think if it was the cable , it would be everywhere in the recording
and not just in a few spots.
I wrote down the time on the one click, I have to check the others again.
It is more of a pop then a vibration. I will try and get some more critical listening time in.

tighten your screw on each 480 body and see if that helps

ive had weird grounding problems like that LONG ago till i tightened them

bagtagsell · « **Reply #74 on:** April 01, 2005, 02:56:03 PM »

just got my bumblebees today. Marc =

Ray76 · « **Reply #75 on:** April 01, 2005, 03:01:43 PM »

Got mine 2 days ago. Thanks so much Hoss.
+T
ray

Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #76 on:** April 02, 2005, 12:07:01 PM »

Quote from: O-Canis on April 02, 2005, 11:15:41 AM

but there is for sure in my mind a need to secure the cables to the stand so that no mechanical noise is moved on to the mics. This could get tricky outdoors This is hard to explaine, sorry.

We should all (already) secure our mic cables to ensure cable movement doesn't translate into mic movement and therefore noise. But perhaps I'm not understanding...?

leegeddy · « **Reply #77 on:** April 02, 2005, 12:29:06 PM »

Quote from: O-Canis on April 02, 2005, 11:15:41 AM

Couple things I noticed last night fooling with the BBees. This could be true of any cable under these situations, but I think the BBees construction may be signifigant in the following setup:

1 Low volume sound source close to the mics
2 pre's gain set way high (to 11 )
3 cables loosly coiled on the floor

The other thing I noticed right away is the stiffness of the cable's teflon sheath keeps them wanting to coil up if left on their own. It's not that they are spring like as much as they will simply tend towards forming loops. I can see if care is not taken to uncoil them during set up then you could find and "ass hole" or kink develop. I'd rather not test to see if the cable will sustain a sharp bend and not finding such a kink in the loop is a step in that direction. This could stand some comment from a manufacture's rep.

All for now, I may edit/add later.

all cables will transfer mechanical vibrations to the mics, no matter what. i agree with your testing results. if you're recording dead air and have the gain cranked at max, you're going to hear EVERYTHING through headphones. however, we'll never be faced with such environment since most of our taping is loud PA level sound sources.

as for the stiffness of the cables due to the teflon, it's quite flexible for the material used. i tend to roll up my 15' into a 9" roll for my bag. when i unpack at a show, i usually unroll it and straighten it out where needed. my experience is that they do not have a "spring" or a "coil" effect.

regards to sharp kinks... they will support a full 180 degrees bend. (i just bent mine and bent it back). i wouldn't recommend it day after day, but if the situation calls for it, then i think it passes that test.

marc

leegeddy · « **Reply #78 on:** April 02, 2005, 02:32:03 PM »

Quote from: O-Canis on April 02, 2005, 12:54:09 PM

I have been coiling them a little tighter than 9"... say 6" or so. Much smaller and the whole works starts looking like a ball of twine

if you can coil them down to 4" or so, you got yourself a neon yellow Slinky!! hahaha

marc

nickgregory · « **Reply #79 on:** April 02, 2005, 03:44:21 PM »

Quote from: O-Canis on April 02, 2005, 02:59:13 PM

So you're saying that I CAN stuff the whole 15' into a Crown Roayl bag?

you should be able to....I take my AM hypers which appear to be made from the same stock that Marc uses and carry them in a crown royal bag...

Simp-Dawg · « **Reply #80 on:** April 05, 2005, 12:08:02 PM »

another satisfied customer

can't wait to hear how these sound at the upcoming galactic shows.

Simp-Dawg · « **Reply #81 on:** April 05, 2005, 01:27:48 PM »

i guess i should burn them in, huh...how do i do that? just turn shit on and leave it running forever?

Brian · « **Reply #82 on:** April 05, 2005, 02:07:29 PM »

Quote from: simpdawg on April 05, 2005, 01:27:48 PM

i guess i should burn them in, huh...how do i do that? just turn shit on and leave it running forever?

yep.. hook up microphone, turn up the gain, and leave it on. if it's a phantom powered, condenser, turn phantom on

edit: 30 hours for burn in seems to be a good standard for length. some go shorter. others go longer. i'd, personally, burn them in for at least 30 hours though.

Ray76 · « **Reply #83 on:** April 05, 2005, 03:35:31 PM »

I was about to ask that same question. Wanderin if some sort of standard was present for burn in.
Will turn mine on this weekend when I roll to holland. Thanks man,.+T
Ray

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #84 on:** April 05, 2005, 04:00:33 PM »

after close to 100 hrs on mine, they really opened up IMO

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #85 on:** April 05, 2005, 06:10:51 PM »

Quote from: O-Canis on April 05, 2005, 06:05:29 PM

They opened up... or you woke up /ducks

What do I do if I only like my pulls toasted

get toasted all of the time

leegeddy · « **Reply #86 on:** April 07, 2005, 06:25:04 PM »

wazzup guys. i'm in chicago through the weekend. hoping to catch the Cubs' game on Sat. the weather's pretty nice up here.

i'll respond to all the PMs when i get home on Sunday.

marc

Tim · « **Reply #87 on:** April 07, 2005, 06:38:37 PM »

have fun Marc!

John R · « **Reply #88 on:** April 07, 2005, 09:34:10 PM »

100 hrs

Ray76 · « **Reply #89 on:** April 07, 2005, 09:56:11 PM »

Quote from: John R on April 07, 2005, 09:34:10 PM

100 hrs

Cool John. Mine are at about 12, so only 88 to go!

Hows my 722 doin??I know its lonely and needs a home...

Ray

OFOTD · « **Reply #90 on:** April 20, 2005, 06:29:48 PM »

Wanted to throw a HUGE shout out to 'leegeddy' for delivering some DAMN FINE cables my way. He had everything turned around super quick and was easier to deal with than alot of the vendors I have dealt with over the years. On short notice he made me a pair of 15' right-angle BumbleBee, MiAgi-II or whatever he has decided to name them, a RA power plug for my V3 and a RA AES > RCA. These cables look great. I took some pics if anyone wants I can post them. Marc is a great example of someone doing the community right!

With less than 24 hours to burn in we'll see how they sound for the Black Crowes tomorrow night. I'll report back Friday on the cable performance.

OFOTD.

radioboy1977 · « **Reply #91 on:** May 08, 2005, 04:23:29 PM »

guess what i just bought

JackoRoses · « **Reply #92 on:** May 08, 2005, 04:24:44 PM »

Quote from: jef-o on May 08, 2005, 04:23:29 PM

guess what i just bought

well if you don't like them just send them over this way.

I feel like I am doing an injustice going back to my original cables. $:-\$

radioboy1977 · « **Reply #93 on:** May 08, 2005, 04:28:44 PM »

Quote from: jackorose on May 08, 2005, 04:24:44 PM

Quote from: jef-o on May 08, 2005, 04:23:29 PM
guess what i just bought
well if you don't like them just send them over this way.
I feel like I am doing an injustice going back to my original cables. $:-\$

you're first in line if i ever decide to sell them

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #94 on:** May 08, 2005, 05:56:41 PM »

have you heardthem yet jef

theyare incrediblecables and the ebst bang for your buck you'll prolly find

Simp-Dawg · « **Reply #95 on:** May 08, 2005, 10:16:09 PM »

just got another pair for interconnects between the m902 and my alesis m1 active mk-ii's

radioboy1977 · « **Reply #96 on:** May 08, 2005, 10:26:27 PM »

i think we need to just start a marc kim appreciation thread

Simp-Dawg · « **Reply #97 on:** May 08, 2005, 10:32:16 PM »

apparently you haven't seen the 6 threads devoted to his work in other parts of the board

spyder9 · « **Reply #98 on:** June 13, 2005, 02:44:45 AM »

I have run them a couple of times so far. Very happy! Nice deep bass for silver cables. They are also very thin, which they can be rolled up and placed in a Crown Royal bag. Takes up little space in my bag. A great deal on a set of great sounding cables. Thanks Marc!! And thanks Bean for the nudge!

hzgone · « **Reply #99 on:** June 15, 2005, 07:39:15 PM »

I had my first outing with the "bumblebee" cables last night(antibalas). WOW!!! These cables rock, i could tell a difference listening to my jb3 in my car and my car sucks for music. Everything on the stage is super clean, bass is nice and deep. I can't wait to get these broken in. For anyone that is thinking about upgrading get these cables. Oh yeah this was with the TL's, i thought they sounded good before but now i'm blown away.

Thanks again Marc +T

Aaron734 · « **Reply #100 on:** June 16, 2005, 01:02:26 AM »

im not really sure where to post these questions, here, or in the mic forum, but i guess ill just do it here

my leegeddy cables just showed up today

and they seem to be pretty sweet, but i have a couple of questions about breakin them in:

when burning the cables in, should i just let them run on phantom power every chance i get? i let them run for about 8 hours today, but i wasnt sending much of a signal through them, does it matter how much gain i send through them or is it simply running power through them that makes the difference?

my next question is really a mic question, will my mics be ok running them for really long periods of time? i never run them for more than a typical show length, will running them for extensive periods of time cause them to get worn out at all?

also, i have a show tomorrow, how do these cables sound when theyre not at all burned in? im guessing they will still smoke my old cables (plain jane mogami cables), right? i read something that its more of a process of getting used to a new sound than anything, does anyone agree with this?

sorry if these questions are not to clear or have been answered elsewhere, thanks in advance,
aaron

OFOTD · « **Reply #101 on:** June 16, 2005, 01:11:10 AM »

Quote from: Aaron734 on June 16, 2005, 01:02:26 AM

im not really sure where to post these questions, here, or in the mic forum, but i guess ill just do it here my leegeddy cables just showed up today and they seem to be pretty sweet, but i have a couple of questions about breakin them in:

when burning the cables in, should i just let them run on phantom power every chance i get? i let them run for about 8 hours today, but i wasnt sending much of a signal through them, does it matter how much gain i send through them or is it simply running power through them that makes the difference?

No as long as you are sending power across the cables.

Quote

my next question is really a mic question, will my mics be ok running them for really long periods of time? i never run them for more than a typical show length, will running them for extensive periods of time cause them to get worn out at all?

yes/no

Quote

also, i have a show tomorrow, how do these cables sound when theyre not at all burned in? im guessing they will still smoke my old cables (plain jane mogami cables), right? i read something that its more of a process of getting used to a new sound than anything, does anyone agree with this?

The cables sound great new or burned in. I did a test when I first got my Bumblebee's. Taped the same passage of a DAT on my home system. Then put about 10 hours on them. Taped the same sound again and repeated this every 10 hours until I had put 51 hours on the cables. I could tell some difference between the 0 hour and 51 hour but the difference was subtle. Not some big in your face difference. I was able to tell a bigger difference when I threw my old cables on.

Quote

sorry if these questions are not to clear or have been answered elsewhere, thanks in advance,
aaron

Well they were pretty clear to me. As I am sure someone else will chime in "Trust your ears" See if you can tell a difference! +t

leegeddy · « **Reply #102 on:** June 16, 2005, 01:16:33 AM »

great post! +t

marc

Aaron734 · « **Reply #103 on:** June 16, 2005, 08:18:10 AM »

Quote from: OFOTD on June 16, 2005, 01:11:10 AM

Quote from: Aaron734 on June 16, 2005, 01:02:26 AM
im not really sure where to post these questions, here, or in the mic forum, but i guess ill just do it here my leegeddy cables just showed up today and they seem to be pretty sweet, but i have a couple of questions about breakin them in:

when burning the cables in, should i just let them run on phantom power every chance i get? i let them run for about 8 hours today, but i wasnt sending much of a signal through them, does it matter how much gain i send through them or is it simply running power through them that makes the difference?

No as long as you are sending power across the cables.

Quote
my next question is really a mic question, will my mics be ok running them for really long periods of time? i never run them for more than a typical show length, will running them for extensive periods of time cause them to get worn out at all?

yes/no

Quote
also, i have a show tomorrow, how do these cables sound when theyre not at all burned in? im guessing they will still smoke my old cables (plain jane mogami cables), right? i read something that its more of a process of getting used to a new sound than anything, does anyone agree with this?

The cables sound great new or burned in. I did a test when I first got my Bumblebee's. Taped the same passage of a DAT on my home system. Then put about 10 hours on them. Taped the same sound again and repeated this every 10 hours until I had put 51 hours on the cables. I could tell some difference between the 0 hour and 51 hour but the difference was subtle. Not some big in your face difference. I was able to tell a bigger difference when I threw my old cables on.

Quote
sorry if these questions are not to clear or have been answered elsewhere, thanks in advance,
aaron

Well they were pretty clear to me. As I am sure someone else will chime in "Trust your ears" See if you can tell a difference! +t

thanks ofotd, that helps a lot, +t for good info! and one more +t to leegeddy for the cables!

CliffClavin · « **Reply #104 on:** June 18, 2005, 08:37:06 AM »

The reason one wears a wedding ring on the third finger is that there is supposed to be a vein which goes directly from that finger to the heart—i.e., the seat of love. Also, not everyone wears that wedding ring on the third finger of the LEFT hand. In some traditions, such as the Jewish one, it is worn on the right hand. Also, nuns ("brides of Christ") wear a wedding ring, again on the right hand.

Thats a fact!

-Cliff

Sam Malone · « **Reply #105 on:** June 18, 2005, 11:43:48 AM »

Great stuff Cliffy....

§†∑∫åµÞ≥¥ · « **Reply #106 on:** June 18, 2005, 12:30:23 PM »

I'm starting to think Cliff and Sammy are the same person here.... hmmmm.

leehookem · « **Reply #107 on:** June 18, 2005, 08:04:47 PM »

Quote from: O-Canis on June 17, 2005, 01:53:14 PM

these cables are not only a great value but they are like buying from your brother... It feels good to know you're helping a friend and at the same time not being the guy who's paying the premium to off set some advertising budget or hype.

HTH

well put!

+T

Norm Peterson · « **Reply #108 on:** June 19, 2005, 02:27:02 AM »

Ahem...

Bdifr78 · « **Reply #109 on:** July 13, 2005, 04:41:07 PM »

Ok so I just got my BB silvers today. I will be running them a whole lot over the weekend at All Good Festival and I will tell everyone what I think. So far I am just amazingly impressed by the way they look alone that I am already happy with my purchase but that is just being ridiculous and I will put them to the test for about 20 sets this weekend. WHEW!!!!!

spyder9 · « **Reply #110 on:** July 13, 2005, 07:32:13 PM »

Marc (leegeddy),

Are you still running low on cable or were you able to pick up more?

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #111 on:** July 13, 2005, 08:13:14 PM »

Quote from: spyder9 on July 13, 2005, 07:32:13 PM

Marc (leegeddy),

Are you still running low on cable or were you able to pick up more?

i havent heard from marc in a while. he was on vacation or working somewhere out of town

i sent him my vrbox to get modded and a few others things and havent heard from him, so he may stil be on vaca/road trip

you wanna get an extra pair dont you

johnw · « **Reply #112 on:** July 13, 2005, 08:30:00 PM »

Quote from: Bean on July 13, 2005, 08:13:14 PM

Quote from: spyder9 on July 13, 2005, 07:32:13 PM
Marc (leegeddy),

Are you still running low on cable or were you able to pick up more?

i havent heard from marc in a while. he was on vacation or working somewhere out of town

i sent him my vrbox to get modded and a few others things and havent heard from him, so he may stil be on vaca/road trip

you wanna get an extra pair dont you

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=37661.msg591210#msg591210

Quote

my job has taken much of my time lately. i've been traveling more than ever since i now have a larger territory to cover.

so, i need to fulfill existing orders and promises, and have stopped taking any further cable orders. i simply don't have the time right now with all my business travels and my focus on my career.

i'll be back once i get caught up.

I PMd him a while back hoping to get some cables made. Bummer I guess I'll try and make some myself. His cables rock!

spyder9 · « **Reply #113 on:** July 13, 2005, 11:13:05 PM »

Quote from: Bean on July 13, 2005, 08:13:14 PM

Quote from: spyder9 on July 13, 2005, 07:32:13 PM
Marc (leegeddy),

Are you still running low on cable or were you able to pick up more?

i havent heard from marc in a while. he was on vacation or working somewhere out of town

i sent him my vrbox to get modded and a few others things and havent heard from him, so he may stil be on vaca/road trip

you wanna get an extra pair dont you

Nah, I'm good for now. But you never know.

I actually need some RA connectors put on my VR box cables. He said he'd do it. Not a biggie. I can wait till after the summer run.

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #114 on:** July 14, 2005, 08:50:04 PM »

Quote from: johnw on July 13, 2005, 08:30:00 PM

Quote from: Bean on July 13, 2005, 08:13:14 PM
Quote from: spyder9 on July 13, 2005, 07:32:13 PM
Marc (leegeddy),

Are you still running low on cable or were you able to pick up more?

i havent heard from marc in a while. he was on vacation or working somewhere out of town

i sent him my vrbox to get modded and a few others things and havent heard from him, so he may stil be on vaca/road trip

you wanna get an extra pair dont you

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=37661.msg591210#msg591210

Quote
my job has taken much of my time lately. i've been traveling more than ever since i now have a larger territory to cover.

so, i need to fulfill existing orders and promises, and have stopped taking any further cable orders. i simply don't have the time right now with all my business travels and my focus on my career.

i'll be back once i get caught up.

I PMd him a while back hoping to get some cables made. Bummer I guess I'll try and make some myself. His cables rock!

gotcha, he said he was on the road when i talked to him this past friday

that sucks, great while it lasted for sure

leegeddy · « **Reply #115 on:** July 17, 2005, 10:12:54 PM »

Quote from: Bean on July 14, 2005, 08:50:04 PM

Quote from: johnw on July 13, 2005, 08:30:00 PM
Quote from: Bean on July 13, 2005, 08:13:14 PM
Quote from: spyder9 on July 13, 2005, 07:32:13 PM
Marc (leegeddy),

Are you still running low on cable or were you able to pick up more?

i havent heard from marc in a while. he was on vacation or working somewhere out of town

i sent him my vrbox to get modded and a few others things and havent heard from him, so he may stil be on vaca/road trip

you wanna get an extra pair dont you

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=37661.msg591210#msg591210

Quote
my job has taken much of my time lately. i've been traveling more than ever since i now have a larger territory to cover.

so, i need to fulfill existing orders and promises, and have stopped taking any further cable orders. i simply don't have the time right now with all my business travels and my focus on my career.

i'll be back once i get caught up.

I PMd him a while back hoping to get some cables made. Bummer I guess I'll try and make some myself. His cables rock!

gotcha, he said he was on the road when i talked to him this past friday

that sucks, great while it lasted for sure

guys;

i'm still making custom cables and vr jboxes, but need to catch up on several orders right now and not taking further orders. i have been out of town on business for several days since the july 4th holiday.

once things slow down a bit, i'll be back.

marc

LEDZEPZOSO · « **Reply #116 on:** July 18, 2005, 08:10:32 PM »

Quote from: leegeddy on July 17, 2005, 10:12:54 PM

guys;

i'm still making custom cables and vr jboxes, but need to catch up on several orders right now and not taking further orders. i have been out of town on business for several days since the july 4th holiday.

once things slow down a bit, i'll be back.

marc

I have found the true cause of Marc slowing down production of his cables and such. He has added a few new products to the Bumble Product line. That is keeping him busy.

http://www.bumblebee.com/

Simp-Dawg · « **Reply #117 on:** July 18, 2005, 11:54:08 PM »

dolphin-free cables!

MarkF · « **Reply #118 on:** August 04, 2005, 01:10:25 PM »

I just received a pair of 20' Bumblebees. They seem pretty stiff. Should I be more concerned about not making sharp bends in this cable, more so than I am with other cables. Is it the techflex making them stiff or the actual wires? Just wondering.
Thanks Marc

Love them.

leegeddy · « **Reply #119 on:** August 04, 2005, 01:29:40 PM »

Quote from: MarkF on August 04, 2005, 01:10:25 PM

I just received a pair of 20' Bumblebees. They seem pretty stiff. Should I be more concerned about not making sharp bends in this cable, more so than I am with other cables. Is it the techflex making them stiff or the actual wires? Just wondering.
Thanks Marc Love them.

the stiffness is a combination of the teflon jacket on the cable and the techflex. however, i've bent them 180 degrees and bent them back w/o any issues.

marc

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #120 on:** August 06, 2005, 09:46:59 PM »

FWIW, id not bend cables extremely, bad things can happen that way

keep them as straight as possible or coiled up as nicely as possible so bad things dont happen

when cables bend THAT much, i get freaked out personally

Kyle · « **Reply #121 on:** August 06, 2005, 10:23:57 PM »

I am stoked - got a 10' pair of speaker cables and a pair of 15' mic cables coming soon

Bdifr78 · « **Reply #122 on:** August 06, 2005, 10:32:19 PM »

Quote from: cmc64 on August 06, 2005, 10:23:57 PM

I am stoked - got a 10' pair of speaker cables and a pair of 15' mic cables coming soon

Good freakin decision! +T

I love my mic cables. But I think I have already made that pretty clear

Kyle · « **Reply #123 on:** August 06, 2005, 10:42:12 PM »

Quote from: Bdifr78 on August 06, 2005, 10:32:19 PM

Quote from: cmc64 on August 06, 2005, 10:23:57 PM
I am stoked - got a 10' pair of speaker cables and a pair of 15' mic cables coming soon

Good freakin decision! +T

I love my mic cables. But I think I have already made that pretty clear

Hell yes

backatcha

edit: Got them today - these cables are beautiful - excellent construction - just gotta get them out in the field

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