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what to put behind 480's
« on: June 12, 2003, 03:37:04 PM »
Currently, i'm running a USBPre behind my 480's. However, later this year, I'm going to looking into get away from the USBPre, and going the route of  seperate pre and A/D(no V3 or minime.......but who knows).

I really have no clue what combo to run behind them, so I guess this is the only way to start.

But by all means, if you have a favorite setup for the 480's, please let me know

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Re:what to put behind 480's
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2003, 03:39:36 PM »
m148 > ad500e/ad1000/minime/mod-sbm1.  i think the 148/480 combo kicks maximum ass. :rockets:
if you want some sources, i've got a few, and carl beck has hundreds  8)

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Re:what to put behind 480's
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2003, 06:35:55 PM »
m148 > ad500e/ad1000/minime/mod-sbm1.  i think the 148/480 combo kicks maximum ass. :rockets:
if you want some sources, i've got a few, and carl beck has hundreds  8)

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I agree...480's sound best with an Apogee A/D.  Get some of Carl's and/or Julian's tapes for some good reference.  A lot of focs swear by that Georgian brick!!

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Re:what to put behind 480's
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2003, 06:38:11 PM »
yeah but which mics does the m148 not sound good behind?


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Re:what to put behind 480's
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2003, 06:42:49 PM »
generally agreed, though i don't have the same allegiance to El Brick that some of you do, I think it sounds great with most, though i'm not sure if i like it with the schoeps, i think i like the 248 better with them for some reason.  i just think that the 148 improves the overall sound with the 480's more than it does with any other mics.  it sounds great with the neumanns, but i think the neumanns sound great with a lot of pres.  the difference the 148 makes in the neumanns is not as big as with the 480's, imho.

did that make any sense...reads like shit.
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Re:what to put behind 480's
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2003, 06:46:49 PM »
yeah but which mics does the m148 not sound good behind?


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Excellent point Trey...

I guess the main factor here to consider is:  What are ya looking to spend?


...Damon, it made sense.  The brick can color things up a little too much with certain mics, like the schempz.

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Re:what to put behind 480's
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2003, 06:51:40 PM »

I guess the main factor here to consider is:  What are ya looking to spend?



i never factor this in when people ask these kind of questions.  this is not a hobby for realists, it's a hobby for idealists  :hmmm:  

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Re:what to put behind 480's
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2003, 07:32:08 PM »
i always liked a sbm-1 behind them.....a mod-sbm1 would be ideal.....pre??? i would go brick(if i had the kablingy) (phor armen and jason b)....but for a simple 2 box solution, i would go w/ a psp3 (the other brick), or mp2....this being said, ive had a dmic-20 behind mine for four years now......my tapes outside especially RAWK.....listenin to 6-7-03 II and it soundz PHANTASTIC w/ this particular combo.... :coolguy: :coolguy:

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Re:what to put behind 480's
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2003, 10:45:18 PM »
i've always been a fan of the 480 > mp-2 combo.  the brick sounds great, but if you're working w/ limited funds the mp-2 can't be beat.  imho.

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Re:what to put behind 480's
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2003, 12:15:23 AM »
i've always been a fan of the 480 > mp-2 combo.  the brick sounds great, but if you're working w/ limited funds the mp-2 can't be beat.  imho.

i agree....just throw a mod-sbm1 after that, and youll be good to go.... 8) 8)

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Re:what to put behind 480's
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2003, 01:59:25 AM »
narrowing this down, I'm becoming interested in the m148

Any info on a m148 > AD2K+ ?

I'm going to aska VERY dumb question, but with the m148, how would you go about monitoring the levels? Or would I need to get a good A/D with visible level controls? BTW, I'm be running this into a laptop (via VX pocket)
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Re:what to put behind 480's
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2003, 03:50:34 AM »
narrowing this down, I'm becoming interested in the m148

Any info on a m148 > AD2K+ ?

I'm going to aska VERY dumb question, but with the m148, how would you go about monitoring the levels? Or would I need to get a good A/D with visible level controls? BTW, I'm be running this into a laptop (via VX pocket)

the 148 is just pretty much, plug and play.....if it were an m248, it would have variable gain, since it is an m148, its gain is pretty much set.....your deck should be just fine for monitoring levels..... 8) 8)always nice to have levels on the outboard gear, tho..... :'( :'( a mod-sbm1 would be ideal in my mind.....a little warm color never hurt em......

ask trey/tim....they seem to know bunches about these 'bricks'......good luck, bro..... 8) 8) 8) 8)

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Re:what to put behind 480's
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2003, 09:23:36 AM »
thansk as always!
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Re:what to put behind 480's
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2003, 10:43:48 AM »
I think you would be limited in setting levels with m148>ad2k+. I have never run a ad2k+ but I think you set the levels at the pre stage so you would be FUBAR since the m148 has only a on/off switch.

Another great sounding, very clean option is 480>ps2>mod sbm-1. I have a buddy who has run this with great results, until he got the southern brick

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Re:what to put behind 480's
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2003, 11:15:51 AM »
As Trey said, the 148 and the 2k+ do not play well together.  To date, I don't know of one tape with that lineage.

As far as the m248 with the schoeps, I'd like to try it out again.  The one time I ran it behind cmc641's, I did not like the results.  Too bright for my ears.  In hindsight, the reason (I believe) the tapes were too bright is because I ran the 248 pretty much wide open.  I think with less gain applied, the hf boost would not be as prevelant.
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