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Should stealth discussion be conducted stealthily on ts.com?

I'm apathetic; I really don't care one way or the other.
29 (14.7%)
No, it's OK to discuss stealth taping on ts.com.
72 (36.5%)
Yes, stealth discussion should not be conducted publicly on ts.com.
35 (17.8%)
I'd prefer stealth conversation to be conducted stealthily, but I don't think it matters much
53 (26.9%)
I hate stealth taping/discussion altogether and wish there was a way for ts.com to ban it completely
8 (4.1%)

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Re: Poll: Should Stealth Discussion Be Stealth?
« Reply #120 on: October 02, 2013, 09:38:27 PM »
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Re: Poll: Should Stealth Discussion Be Stealth?
« Reply #121 on: October 02, 2013, 10:49:32 PM »
Just a thought... 

I'm on another board that has separate MBs for member that have posted more than 1000 times...  Is it possible to create a board where long time members could privately discuss  >:D w/o general public knowledge???

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Re: Poll: Should Stealth Discussion Be Stealth?
« Reply #122 on: October 02, 2013, 10:59:06 PM »
Just a thought... 

I'm on another board that has separate MBs for member that have posted more than 1000 times...  Is it possible to create a board where long time members could privately discuss  >:D w/o general public knowledge???

Terry

true, Bri's other board is like that.

devils advocate; what are the folks who have been here long enough to get access need to discuss it openly for? I mean, I've traded notes with some other long time users, but short of some really neat tricks, it's nothing that is outside of "necessity is the mother of all invention" sort of thing. It's the folks getting started that seem to want to most help.
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Re: Poll: Should Stealth Discussion Be Stealth?
« Reply #123 on: October 03, 2013, 12:34:13 AM »
Just a thought... 

I'm on another board that has separate MBs for member that have posted more than 1000 times...  Is it possible to create a board where long time members could privately discuss  >:D w/o general public knowledge???

Terry

true, Bri's other board is like that.

devils advocate; what are the folks who have been here long enough to get access need to discuss it openly for? I mean, I've traded notes with some other long time users, but short of some really neat tricks, it's nothing that is outside of "necessity is the mother of all invention" sort of thing. It's the folks getting started that seem to want to most help.

True enough...  We could set the bar really low so that someone that is looking that may potentially be harmful to our hobby can't get to it on their initial visit...  If someone is trying to get into taping, they'll ask a slew of questions and after a while could get access to info.  If someone is looking for info in order to bust someone at an upcoming show, they won't even see it...

I have no idea...  I'm a bit drunk...  I have no interest in  :P myself, but I know that it is valuable to my hobby of collecting music...

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Re: Poll: Should Stealth Discussion Be Stealth?
« Reply #124 on: October 03, 2013, 09:08:50 AM »
Recent run-in with an artist at a show I stealthed:

"Hey man, you tapin' tonight?"
"Yup."
"Where's your rig?"
"Right here" <shows artist recorder, pre-amp, mics>
"Holy shit. That's fuckin' awesome! Hey Bill (bass player), come check this out.  He put mics in his _____. Hope it turns out!"
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Re: Poll: Should Stealth Discussion Be Stealth?
« Reply #125 on: October 03, 2013, 05:37:54 PM »
Recent run-in with an artist at a show I stealthed:

"Hey man, you tapin' tonight?"
"Yup."
"Where's your rig?"
"Right here" <shows artist recorder, pre-amp, mics>
"Holy shit. That's fuckin' awesome! Hey Bill (bass player), come check this out.  He put mics in his _____. Hope it turns out!"

that sounds like a good "run-in" to me.  in this age of electronic gadgets and gizmos, folks capturing video and audio with their cell phones, etc. i really don't think that stealthing a show for personal use is a bad thing or at all takes away from the profit of the artist.  i'm not going to to argue that by strict definition of the law unauthorized stealth recording is not "theft of service"; but from a practical sense absolutely no one gets hurt.  i end up with a really cool (and hopefully great quality) recording of the show that i attended, and i often purchase the authorized releases from the merch table.  so even my little amateur recording that is only used for personal enjoyment does not detract from sales of the official merchandise.  my hobby actually serves as a catalyst for putting more money into the artists pocket.  and at the end of the day i think it's the record labels much more than the artists/performers who are opposed to stealth recording.  most performers don't care what i have in my _________ as long as i'm not disrupting things.  and based on the example quoted above i think most artists support what we do as long as it is done discretely and with respect.   

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Re: Poll: Should Stealth Discussion Be Stealth?
« Reply #126 on: October 03, 2013, 11:57:09 PM »
^^ open taping, especially by a certain disrespectful minority of open tapers, is more disruptive to the artists than stealth.
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Re: Poll: Should Stealth Discussion Be Stealth?
« Reply #127 on: October 04, 2013, 06:47:08 AM »
^^ open taping, especially by a certain disrespectful minority of open tapers, is more disruptive to the artists than stealth.

I second that.

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Re: Poll: Should Stealth Discussion Be Stealth?
« Reply #128 on: October 04, 2013, 07:14:44 AM »
We have to remember that concert security guards cant read never mind use a computer. So have no fear of talking about stealth  :P
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