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Re: New Taper
« Reply #75 on: August 20, 2006, 12:59:36 AM »
Okay folks.


The SMK's arrived at my door this evening.

I now have the stand and the mics.

Can you folks provide me with links to these: (please go as cheap as possible, I'm quickly running out of $$$)


Phantom Power
Cables
Something to boost my gain (Cheap please)
JB3
And anything else you think I NEED.


Thank you so much. :)

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Re: New Taper
« Reply #76 on: August 20, 2006, 01:20:08 AM »
Have a money figure on how much you can spend on the rest? I would come up with one and we should be able to help you more. You probably will have to skip the gain part for now, unless you want to get a stock UA-5 (which can be found for cheap). Neither the Art 3 or Deneke PS-2 provide gain.

Edit: Also forgot to mention that the JB3 does provide gain so you can do it then. Or if is too low you can always bump it up in post.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2006, 01:22:06 AM by alienbobz »
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Re: New Taper
« Reply #77 on: August 20, 2006, 01:33:27 AM »
What's a "stock" UA5?


A non-stock UA5?


Sorry for the n00b questions.

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Re: New Taper
« Reply #78 on: August 20, 2006, 01:37:39 AM »
definately get a preamp from church-audio (which should take caree of phantom power and preamp gain isssues, hopefully a a>d)

pm church-audio on this board, very reliable product and affordable.
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Re: New Taper
« Reply #79 on: August 20, 2006, 01:40:07 AM »
Sorry for the confusion. What I meant was a UA-5 that has been not modded as far as sound goes. A lot of people run UA-5 that have either been modded by Busman2 or Doug Oade. These range from 300-600 depending on the mod. A stock one is cheaper. If you plan to run optical in on the JB3, you will need to have a digi-mod UA-5. The UA-5 does have optical out, but it was initailly setup so you have to run a laptop via the usb out and the digi-out at the same time. With the digi-mod you can by-pass the need to have a laptop and just run digi-out.

If you have any more questions, let me know. I can meet you AIM.
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Re: New Taper
« Reply #80 on: August 20, 2006, 01:40:23 AM »
Any particular pre amps you recommend?

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Re: New Taper
« Reply #81 on: August 20, 2006, 01:41:15 AM »
Cheap please... :)

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Re: New Taper
« Reply #82 on: August 20, 2006, 02:15:18 AM »
The Phantom III runs off betteries right?

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Re: New Taper
« Reply #83 on: August 20, 2006, 02:42:57 AM »
I looked up the ART Phantom 3 some more and from the looks of it, it only takes one xlr in and one out. The ART 2 looks like it can take can take 2 in and 2 out. Not 100% sure about the ART since there doesn't seem to be any picuters of the sides, but this pdf seems to say only one:

http://www.musicworksgroup.com/docdownloads/PhantomIII.pdf

Edit:

Looks like the ART 2 can also be run off of 2 9v batteries so that would definately a good option for you Chris. A few links to get one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110021171017&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Stores&refitem=110018933742&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&refwidgettype=osi_widget#ebayphotohosting

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Phantom2/
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Re: New Taper
« Reply #84 on: August 20, 2006, 10:26:34 AM »
That makes sense, thank you so much.

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Re: New Taper
« Reply #85 on: August 20, 2006, 12:14:24 PM »
definately get a preamp from church-audio (which should take caree of phantom power and preamp gain isssues, hopefully a a>d)

pm church-audio on this board, very reliable product and affordable.
his pre's are not phantom powered

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Re: New Taper
« Reply #86 on: August 20, 2006, 12:32:48 PM »
The Art II is the least expensive phantom option I know of, but there may be others.  For inexpensive but clean gain, try a pair of line transformers like the Hosa MIT-176 or Audio Technica SP8201 (maybe $40/pr).  For inexpensive recorders, consider the JB3, iRiver, and various MD units.  I believe all of those have a 1/8" stereo input, so you'll need a 2 x 1/4" > 1/8" stereo mini adapter.  So, the gear over all would like like this:

SMK mics > mic cables (any inexpensive pair will do) > Art II (phantom) > Hosa MIT-176 (gain) > 2 x 1/4"-female | 1/8"-male stereo mini > recorder

The MIT-176 and CP8201 provide fixed gain, so you'll use your recorder to adjust levels.  As ScottT suggested earlier, though, if you don't get enough gain out of the line transformers, there's really not much you can do except boost levels in post-production.  You could replace the line transformers with an AD-20 (preamp w/o phantom and ADC), or the Art II and line transformers with a digi-mod UA5 (preamp w/ phantom and ADC) or Sound Devices MixPre or MP2 (preamp w/ phantom only).  But each of those options will cost you ~$100-250 more than the Art II + line transformers.
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Re: New Taper
« Reply #87 on: August 20, 2006, 05:20:21 PM »
http://www.music123.com/Hosa-MIT176-i13238.music

Is that what I will need?  Those will run from the Phantom into the JB3?

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Re: New Taper
« Reply #88 on: August 20, 2006, 10:35:34 PM »
http://www.music123.com/Hosa-MIT176-i13238.music

Is that what I will need?  Those will run from the Phantom into the JB3?
NO
if you wanted to go from the art2 > jb3 you would need this type of cable
http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-XLRF-MINI-2
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Re: New Taper
« Reply #89 on: August 21, 2006, 12:03:39 AM »

 

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