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Re: Sennheiser MKE2 Waterproof GoPro mic - hacks and modifications
« Reply #150 on: March 16, 2019, 01:02:47 PM »
I’m considering wiring these up to mini XLR jacks and having mics that can easily be disconnected from their cables to allow for easier storage, transport, and setup. Are there any obvious reasons to avoid this that I may be overlooking?

I used mini XLRs.  I think the only downside is the size of the connectors.

I was thinking about having the jack/plug section sticking out the back and being in use, as opposed to taking that off and using the body of the connector and having the wire come out where the wire normally would.
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Re: Sennheiser MKE2 Waterproof GoPro mic - hacks and modifications
« Reply #151 on: March 16, 2019, 02:39:41 PM »
I’m considering wiring these up to mini XLR jacks and having mics that can easily be disconnected from their cables to allow for easier storage, transport, and setup. Are there any obvious reasons to avoid this that I may be overlooking?

I used mini XLRs.  I think the only downside is the size of the connectors.

I was thinking about having the jack/plug section sticking out the back and being in use, as opposed to taking that off and using the body of the connector and having the wire come out where the wire normally would.

Maybe I didn't get enough sleep last night, but I can't picture what you're describing.
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Re: Sennheiser MKE2 Waterproof GoPro mic - hacks and modifications
« Reply #152 on: March 16, 2019, 02:52:45 PM »
It occurred to me that I haven't posted a picture of the first pair I've made.  See attached (the other one looks the same but with black heat shrink instead of red at the connector end).  I still need to figure out a way to give the windscreens a tighter fit to the body.  They will hold when just slid on, but wind could easily get in the gap between the body of the mic and the inner radius of the windscreen opening.  I'll probably just tape the gear ties to the body for mounting these.  I should be able to get at least a 20 foot spread with the length of cable used.  Hopefully that will make for some good pulls at Red Rocks.
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Re: Sennheiser MKE2 Waterproof GoPro mic - hacks and modifications
« Reply #153 on: March 16, 2019, 07:20:31 PM »
I’m considering wiring these up to mini XLR jacks and having mics that can easily be disconnected from their cables to allow for easier storage, transport, and setup. Are there any obvious reasons to avoid this that I may be overlooking?

I used mini XLRs.  I think the only downside is the size of the connectors.

I was thinking about having the jack/plug section sticking out the back and being in use, as opposed to taking that off and using the body of the connector and having the wire come out where the wire normally would.

Maybe I didn't get enough sleep last night, but I can't picture what you're describing.

I admittedly did not do a great job explaining. What I’m envisioning is something more similar to a standard SDC, with a male mini XLR plug at the end of a tube with the mic capsules at the opposite end. This would allow the cables to be easily disconnected from the capsules.
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Re: Sennheiser MKE2 Waterproof GoPro mic - hacks and modifications
« Reply #154 on: March 16, 2019, 07:31:36 PM »
I admittedly did not do a great job explaining. What I’m envisioning is something more similar to a standard SDC, with a male mini XLR plug at the end of a tube with the mic capsules at the end opposite end. This would allow the cables to be easily disconnected from the capsules.

Ah I see.  Probably doable.  If you try it make sure to share your progress here...I'd love to see it happen.
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Re: Sennheiser MKE2 Waterproof GoPro mic - hacks and modifications
« Reply #155 on: March 18, 2019, 10:12:41 AM »
It occurred to me that I haven't posted a picture of the first pair I've made.  See attached (the other one looks the same but with black heat shrink instead of red at the connector end).  I still need to figure out a way to give the windscreens a tighter fit to the body.  They will hold when just slid on, but wind could easily get in the gap between the body of the mic and the inner radius of the windscreen opening.  I'll probably just tape the gear ties to the body for mounting these.  I should be able to get at least a 20 foot spread with the length of cable used.  Hopefully that will make for some good pulls at Red Rocks.

So what did you use to make the "bodies" ?
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Re: Sennheiser MKE2 Waterproof GoPro mic - hacks and modifications
« Reply #156 on: March 18, 2019, 10:16:27 AM »
It occurred to me that I haven't posted a picture of the first pair I've made.  See attached (the other one looks the same but with black heat shrink instead of red at the connector end).  I still need to figure out a way to give the windscreens a tighter fit to the body.  They will hold when just slid on, but wind could easily get in the gap between the body of the mic and the inner radius of the windscreen opening.  I'll probably just tape the gear ties to the body for mounting these.  I should be able to get at least a 20 foot spread with the length of cable used.  Hopefully that will make for some good pulls at Red Rocks.

You could just wrap some gaff tape around the neck to make it fit tightly until you find something more permanent.
Mics: mk4v/mk41v/mk22 > CMC1L/Nbobs, 4061, MKE2
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Re: Sennheiser MKE2 Waterproof GoPro mic - hacks and modifications
« Reply #157 on: March 18, 2019, 11:00:25 AM »
It occurred to me that I haven't posted a picture of the first pair I've made.  See attached (the other one looks the same but with black heat shrink instead of red at the connector end).  I still need to figure out a way to give the windscreens a tighter fit to the body.  They will hold when just slid on, but wind could easily get in the gap between the body of the mic and the inner radius of the windscreen opening.  I'll probably just tape the gear ties to the body for mounting these.  I should be able to get at least a 20 foot spread with the length of cable used.  Hopefully that will make for some good pulls at Red Rocks.

Don't overthink omnis. They do not have the rear of capsule venting that directional mics do. That venting is what causes havoc. Directional mics suffer from wind; omnis are far more forgiving.  I'd be more worried about mechanical noise presented from the wind moving the screens, than any real wind noise.

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Re: Sennheiser MKE2 Waterproof GoPro mic - hacks and modifications
« Reply #158 on: March 18, 2019, 11:32:07 AM »
I've posted a sample from yesterdays symphony orchestra concert.  It is with the mics as Boundary Layer Effect pair, spaced 14', and taped tight to the balcony face wall; hard drywall face. This was an acoustic concert, no p.a.. From apprx. 17th row depth, balcony face.
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Re: Sennheiser MKE2 Waterproof GoPro mic - hacks and modifications
« Reply #159 on: March 18, 2019, 11:49:10 AM »
It occurred to me that I haven't posted a picture of the first pair I've made.  See attached (the other one looks the same but with black heat shrink instead of red at the connector end).  I still need to figure out a way to give the windscreens a tighter fit to the body.  They will hold when just slid on, but wind could easily get in the gap between the body of the mic and the inner radius of the windscreen opening.  I'll probably just tape the gear ties to the body for mounting these.  I should be able to get at least a 20 foot spread with the length of cable used.  Hopefully that will make for some good pulls at Red Rocks.

So what did you use to make the "bodies" ?

The brass tubing that Moke used.  He used two sizes, and I only used the smaller size.  It was in stock at Ace Hardware.
Mics: AT4050ST | AT4031 | AT853 (C/SC) | Line Audio CM3 | Sennheiser e614 | Sennheiser MKE2 | DPA 4061 Pre: CA9200 Decks: Zoom F8 | Roland R-05

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Re: Sennheiser MKE2 Waterproof GoPro mic - hacks and modifications
« Reply #160 on: March 18, 2019, 12:03:50 PM »
That recording is nice Moke. I just love ambient omni recordings how they can really create the illusion you are there.
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Re: Sennheiser MKE2 Waterproof GoPro mic - hacks and modifications
« Reply #161 on: April 11, 2019, 11:40:13 PM »
Would anyone here be willing to finish the mics I have hacked  for a fee? I got them out of the case and now that I have a relocation coming up very soon I certainly will not have time to finish them. Im just looking for 5 feet of cable to a mini plug nothing fancy and Id be willing to pay reasonable amount for time and parts. Just hate to put these on the shelf and not get any use out of them.

Since Im moving to New Orleans I may have lots of oppotunities to get a small rig on stage at club shows so having a pocket sized rig would be perfect.

Any help?
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Re: Sennheiser MKE2 Waterproof GoPro mic - hacks and modifications
« Reply #162 on: April 12, 2019, 06:54:02 PM »
I was messing with my M10 and forgot that I tested these mics at the Mother Hips show a few months ago. They sound really good straight into the recorder. Nice full bass and crisp highs. There is chatter but they're omnis so nothing lost there.

I'll post a sample this weekend if anyone's interested in how they handle higher SPLs.
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Re: Sennheiser MKE2 Waterproof GoPro mic - hacks and modifications
« Reply #163 on: April 13, 2019, 04:20:42 PM »
I finally got around to testing these in a loud show last night with my Roland R-05.  The samples I'm linking are purely for testing the mics...I had the two mics mounted close together, and only generally pointed towards the stage, so don't expect any good stereo image or the like.  (Also I can't say much for the music itself, but that's beside the point.)  I've done exactly zero post-processing to these clips.  At the time of recording, I wasn't particularly concerned about getting the levels the same for each sample...I was just concerned that the levels weren't clipping and were in the same general ballpark.  Here's a link to download all the clips (good for seven days): https://we.tl/t-NeHadQrBmJ  I'd really like to hear others' thoughts about which sound distorted, which sound like they're working properly, etc.

Here's a breakdown of how things were configured in each clip (note that there was some crackling from the PA at times):

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Mic in, pip, mic bias 1.2, input level 9

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Line in, ca9200 0 gain, input level 9

0416_070527
Line in, ca9200 10 gain, input level 5

0416_070946
Line in, ca9200 15 gain, input level 4

0416_071351
Line in, ubb, input level 9

0416_073700
Mic in, pip, mic bias .9, input level 20

0416_074110
Mic in, pip, mic bias .75, input level 20
Mics: AT4050ST | AT4031 | AT853 (C/SC) | Line Audio CM3 | Sennheiser e614 | Sennheiser MKE2 | DPA 4061 Pre: CA9200 Decks: Zoom F8 | Roland R-05

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Re: Sennheiser MKE2 Waterproof GoPro mic - hacks and modifications
« Reply #164 on: April 13, 2019, 10:26:39 PM »

Here's a breakdown of how things were configured in each clip (note that there was some crackling from the PA at times):
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Mic in, pip, mic bias 1.2, input level 9
Mics overloaded.  Plug in power not enough.
0416_070200Line in, ca9200 0 gain, input level 9
Good
0416_070527Line in, ca9200 10 gain, input level 5
Good
0416_070946Line in, ca9200 15 gain, input level 4
brickwall, due to preamp maximum input or output level?


0416_071351
Line in, ubb, input level 9
Good


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Mic in, pip, mic bias .9, input level 20
SEEMS ok
0416_074110Mic in, pip, mic bias .75, input level 20
SEEMS OK

Please DO NOT mail me with tech questions.  I will try to answer in the forums when I get a chance.  Thanks.

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