Topic: AKG 391 extension cable

[jbell]

Here is a show I did recently!  There is some crowd noise, but can't help it in this type of venue.  I am working on a Cornmeal show that sounds real nice that I should have on LMA by the end of the weekend. 

http://www.archive.org/details/BrushfireStankgrassLiveAtHighlandsBrewery2411

[kirk97132]

Yeah chatty crowd.    I tried searching LMA for anything else of yours but only got one hit.  Is there more 391 stuff of your up there?  I also like that you run am MP-2 like me so I can get a feel for it.    Man I am so torn about these mics.  I have some shows coming up but don't want to be experimenting since I'm recording them for a friend.  Benefit shows for his cancer.   John or Richard, have you guys ever used them directly on amps or anything like that?  I'm trying to see if they are good as mics when I do FOH work. 

[newplanet7]

High Kirk. Here's a couple of mine from LMA.
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=newplanet7%20391%20AND%20collection%3Aetree

-todd

[kirk97132]

Thanks The Clud De elf although not my type of music it was nice to hear a comp.    I know there is a crap load of 391 recordings on the LMA .  Anybody care to comment on these VS Busman BSC1's? 

[EarlyMorningRain]

if your after 393 samples, you can search the LMA for just AKG 393 for example, and get plenty of hits
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=AKG%20393%20AND%20collection%3Aetree

[jbell]

Busman mics are brighter sounding!  I wouldin't use the cards (ck91) indoors.  I only run hypers at indoor shows. 

Thanks The Clud De elf although not my type of music it was nice to hear a comp.    I know there is a crap load of 391 recordings on the LMA .  Anybody care to comment on these VS Busman BSC1's?

[setboy]

Busman mics are brighter sounding!

Depends on your play back.....I know a lot of people say they are bright, but my ears do not hear it that way.....though I wish they did hear it more bright.

[newplanet7]

Busman mics are brighter sounding!  I wouldin't use the cards (ck91) indoors.  I only run hypers at indoor shows. 

They are good on-stage.
Why do you only run hypers in-doors.

[jbell]

At the venues I usually tape I don't like the sound of the CK91's!  They pick up to much bass and not enough Highs, it just doesn't seem to have a balanced sound like the ck93.  Only my opionion.

Kirkd I will post a link to the cornmeal show that I UL'd yesterday once I can get greenone to help me fix the metadata.  I'm still learning how to upload to LMA and haven't got the process down.  I was running CK93 caps

Edit: Cornmeal show I recently recorded http://www.archive.org/details/Cornmeal2011-02-19.Cornmeal2011-02-19

Busman mics are brighter sounding!  I wouldin't use the cards (ck91) indoors.  I only run hypers at indoor shows. 

They are good on-stage.
Why do you only run hypers in-doors.

[newplanet7]

I hear ya.
I liked them for close micing.

[goodcooker]

have you guys ever used them directly on amps or anything like that?  I'm trying to see if they are good as mics when I do FOH work.

I used a pair of these as overheads one time. I thought they sounded much better than the pair of JW mod 463s that I used the night before. Rock music. Loud drummer. What they lack in high end detail can be utilized to get a gritty rock and roll drum sound. I found myself mixing in more of the OH and backing off on the tom and snare mics as the night progressed. Didn't have any problem with monitor bleed which had plagued me with the 463s.

I wouldn't hesitate to put it on a guitar cab from a foot away mixed with a close dynamic...if the stage is wide enough to provide for a little separation.

[kirk97132]

So I ended up doing a trade for Busmans BSC1's and some money without ever plugging these mics in.  I listened to a bunch of LMA stuff and it's not that I didn't think they would sound bad but as SDC's I have others I would reach for first and a total of 6(well 7 if you count 853 style mic)pairs so I'm flush with them.   But the Busmans with the extra caps seemed to give some added flexibility and the person I traded with really wanted to try out the 391's so I think we are both happy.   I'm grateful for the feedback.  And in fact it was the feedback here that made me think long and hard about the trade.   I've been switching up my overhead stuff when I get the chance.  So besides gigs where I'm using other peoples mics, usually the Ole SM-81's  I've used some Samson hypers, NUeman 184s, ADk SC-t's Toa K3 & K1's and I've been toying with moving my EV N/D 308's off the toms to overheads and have actually used my ADK A51's on the toms, I kinda back 'em off a bit and let the kick and snare bleed in.  But now we are so far off topic.......