Topic: Josephson, Neumann, Audix or ADK?

[jhirte]

Dont forget the AT4051a's!! You can get them for cheap on ebay on occasion.... a little bright, but for rock, its all good:
http://home.comcast.net/~jhirte/fitz.mp3
this is at4051a -> V3 -> DA-P1
-Jim

[Joe w.]

I was VERY impressed with lee's ADK A51 TL > V3 source from the NMAS H.O.B. show. Nice, clean and very musical with lots of detail. You can really hear how wasted JB was ........A great tape though.

[VA_TAPER]

I'd vote Josephsons...but I'm slightly biased...

Bass is not lacking though, most of my Glen shows are low on bass only beacuse one guitar doesn't make much but Howie Day rocked the Norva a few nights ago and the bass was a little much for my tastes....though sounds fantastic though a system with a sub
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=9989

also check out the Antibalas if you haven't
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=6023

peace, chris

p.s. if you don't have high speed and you'd like some mp3 samples just let me know and I'll post some here.

[olyrc]

I'd vote Josephsons...but I'm slightly biased...

Bass is not lacking though, most of my Glen shows are low on bass only beacuse one guitar doesn't make much but Howie Day rocked the Norva a few nights ago and the bass was a little much for my tastes....though sounds fantastic though a system with a sub
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=9989

also check out the Antibalas if you haven't
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=6023

peace, chris

p.s. if you don't have high speed and you'd like some mp3 samples just let me know and I'll post some here.

Yeah, I dl'd that Howie show yesterday and it sounds pretty good.  Bass is nice and tight.

Any idea how they'd sound through a p-mod UA-5?  Seems like they might be a little bright.  Might need to swap for a w-mod if I went with these...

[VA_TAPER]

I would think they would sound better matched with the W-mod, but Doug says the P-mod is more like apogee sound and I'm using the mini me as the a/d so who knows.  

Mic config will play a good deal in to the HF response.  I prefer to use the "nutter" or ATS technique with the Josephsons.  I have the Shure Vert bar and Shure shockmounts with the capsules aprox. 7" apart aimed slightly to the outside of the stacks.  The degree amount you spread towards the outside of the stacks will determine the HF content as the HF boost (presence peak) is stongly attenuated off axis, so if your tapes are too bright for you run a little wider config and dial it in to taste.  

In switching from the MP2->D100 to the Lunatec->MMe I had to add about 5 degrees to the mics on both sides do to the new found clarity in the highs. YMMV

peace, chris

[olyrc]

I would think they would sound better matched with the W-mod, but Doug says the P-mod is more like apogee sound and I'm using the mini me as the a/d so who knows.  

Mic config will play a good deal in to the HF response.  I prefer to use the "nutter" or ATS technique with the Josephsons.  I have the Shure Vert bar and Shure shockmounts with the capsules aprox. 7" apart aimed slightly to the outside of the stacks.  The degree amount you spread towards the outside of the stacks will determine the HF content as the HF boost (presence peak) is stongly attenuated off axis, so if your tapes are too bright for you run a little wider config and dial it in to taste.  

In switching from the MP2->D100 to the Lunatec->MMe I had to add about 5 degrees to the mics on both sides do to the new found clarity in the highs. YMMV

peace, chris

Thanks Chris.  Got any rig pics of this config?

[blu666z]

The more I hear about the Josephsons, the more I like them.

-Kevin

[BobW]

The more I hear about the Josephsons, the more I like them.

-Kevin

Quoting Bullwinkle J. Moose  "Just listen !"

[olyrc]

The more I hear about the Josephsons, the more I like them.

-Kevin

Yup, I think that is what I'm going with.  They're a bit more than the TLs, so I'll have to wait a week or so before I can afford them, but oh well...

+t to all for the help.

[Larry J. Villella]

If I had to lose a sale to another microphone company,
there's no one I'd rather lose to than Josephson!!

They build a superlative product!

Cheers!

Larry Villella, Founder, ADK Microphones

[mgleason007]

How about AKG 481's?  If you look hard enough you can get a pair ~ $800.

[jnorman34]

i'll second the akg c481s, the AT4051s and the gefell m300s - all very good mics.  i have had schoeps cmc64s, km184s, dpa 4061s, etc, and the c480s are my favorite mics these days.  you should be able to find a good used pair for under $1000.  at4051s or m300s used for around $600 pr.

[jkoch]

i'd also suggest to give chris' mraz tapes (bonaroo and 10/28/03) a listen...good example of the pop/jam/whatever you were talking about and i know you tape him as well

[utahtaper]

i'll second the akg c481s, the AT4051s and the gefell m300s - all very good mics.  i have had schoeps cmc64s, km184s, dpa 4061s, etc, and the c480s are my favorite mics these days.  you should be able to find a good used pair for under $1000.  at4051s or m300s used for around $600 pr.

Ditto. Excellent mic, hold out for 480's.

I'm wondering how many of you have used TL's outdoors? How's the response on the capsule? Tight?

[twoodruff]

hands down the ADK, versatility is the name of the game. I am usually a neumann fluffer yet, as Johnny, the 184 is my least favorite. The m300 are a nice fixed cap cardioid, and I haven't heard that many josephson tapes to form an opinion, but to me the adk has so many applications with 5 settings right there on the mic, how can ya beat that?