Topic: SONOSAX SX-R4+ & SX-AD8+ Delayed

[stevetoney]

Yes, these images confirm my belief in love at first sight.

[H₂O]

More detailed specs and block diagrams posted on the Sonosax website!

[F.O.Bean]

Me want one drool

[F.O.Bean]

Yes, these images confirm my belief in love at first sight.

100% agreed Why cant I win the lottery or get a huge settlement/inheritance lol

[acidjack]

I've been waiting on an SX-R4+ that I already ordered for a good while (waiting especially patiently since I already sold a bunch of other gear) and am now told "July 2015." Will believe it when I see it! (In case you're reading this Justin, I'm not directing that at you -- I know I'll get it once the Swiss release it!)

In the meantime, I assume a lot of it will be the same as the SX-R4. What kind of battery life can be expected on the SX-R4 with (a) the internal battery and (b) a Tekkeon? I know the SD 788 and 744 are pretty battery-intensive, but I am hoping that this unit being really light and seemingly pretty small will do better.

I'm also curious how this deck will work with its dual SD cards. I wonder, for example, if they must both be the same size card, if you can run it with just one card, etc.

[H₂O]

Check out the jwsound forum to get more info

Part of the delay is abunch of people bitching that their is only 1 set of analog outs - enough people bitched to where sonosax is/was looking at a last minute hardware redesign to add an additional analog pair out as an option

http://jwsoundgroup.net/index.php?/topic/23419-sonosax-sx-r4/

From the videos I saw in April the user interface was very alpha as well with many features not complete - It was quite evident in this video that May was unrealistic


Note that the original minir82 and r4 took 3-6 months longer to release from the original announced dates

[MattH]

In the meantime, I assume a lot of it will be the same as the SX-R4. What kind of battery life can be expected on the SX-R4 with (a) the internal battery and (b) a Tekkeon? I know the SD 788 and 744 are pretty battery-intensive, but I am hoping that this unit being really light and seemingly pretty small will do better.

On the SX-R4, I find I can get about 8 hours recording on 6 AA lithium and at least double that with my external batterygeek 10-14-88.

[acidjack]

In the meantime, I assume a lot of it will be the same as the SX-R4. What kind of battery life can be expected on the SX-R4 with (a) the internal battery and (b) a Tekkeon? I know the SD 788 and 744 are pretty battery-intensive, but I am hoping that this unit being really light and seemingly pretty small will do better.

On the SX-R4, I find I can get about 8 hours recording on 6 AA lithium and at least double that with my external batterygeek 10-14-88.

Sweet. That is what I'd hoped.

[H₂O]

Keep In mind the R4+ is a completely new design and may have different power requirements

R4+ has 4 DSP's and a color display
R4 had 1 DSP (based on block diagram) and smaller BW display

R4+ runs off a special battery pack with some estimates pointing at a 49Wh max the bg-10-14-88 is an 88Wh battery

6 x 1.2 x 2.4 (2400mA) = 17.28Wh

Although I think the R4+ will be very efficient (as can be seen by the R4's performance) it is definitely going to require more power than the R4

[H₂O]

Latest news is that the r4+ will start shipping at the end of this month

[Mic D]

New info update for the R4+. Sonosax will be taking pre orders until July 20th and after that, the price is going up 10%...

http://www.sonosax.ch/news/SONONEWS_2015_07_EN.pdf

[Mic D]

If anybody cares... Here's an email I got from Sonosax today...


"Dear Mr Pink,

Again thank you for your demand and sorry for not replying immediately,
unfortunately we are currently facing a "patent" problem.

We have been asked about the technology we have developed to extended dynamic range to 132dB on the SX-R4+ ; it is suspected to infringe a US patent.
Actually we are studying the patent to see if our technology does or does not infringe the patent.

In the mean time we have no choice but to suspend the delivery of the SX-R4+ within the USA.

We are very sorry for this bad news and I will keep you informed as soon as possible

Kind regards

Pierre
SONOSAX"

[stevetoney]

^ That's sad news for the people that pre-ordered.  So it seems that not only does it mean that you won't be getting your Sax soon, but apparently you're losing out on the pre-sale pricing since the only options are to re-order and import?   

[H₂O]

I bet It's Zaxcom NeverClip that's the issue here

http://zaxcom.com/what-is-neverclip/

[acidjack]

^ That's sad news for the people that pre-ordered.  So it seems that not only does it mean that you won't be getting your Sax soon, but apparently you're losing out on the pre-sale pricing since the only options are to re-order and import?   

I hope that's not the interpretation, but I am increasingly sorry I sold my trusty R-44 so I could buy this vaporware.