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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2015, 02:31:23 PM »
Another flawless 4 channel recording last night, perhaps I haven't had any problems because I'm using an approved card?


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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2015, 04:24:09 PM »
I picked a pny 64gig card from the approved media list.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2015, 04:27:00 PM »
I picked a pny 64gig card from the approved media list.


Great hanging last night...For those asking its the PNY Elite. Its pricey but I have not had an issue using said card and use format right in the machine.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2015, 04:32:04 PM »
Question: Is the issue one that occurs only at 24/96 and higher? I cannot recall seeing if there are parameters to what triggers the diginoise, but I feel like comments have inferred that it is only at 24/96 or higher. Thanks!
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2015, 04:40:52 PM »
I don't see any PNY cards on the approved list.  Same card that I have been using as well


I picked a pny 64gig card from the approved media list.


Great hanging last night...For those asking its the PNY Elite. Its pricey but I have not had an issue using said card and use format right in the machine.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2015, 05:33:51 PM »
I don't see any PNY cards on the approved list.  Same card that I have been using as well

And there is the real reason tomu picked up and ran...so many people had used the old "wrong" list as a guide for their SD card purchases...


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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2015, 05:35:43 PM »
New list link?
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #38 on: December 04, 2015, 05:41:56 PM »
New list link?

http://tascam.com/content/downloads/products/867/dr-70d_tested_media_list_20151006.pdf

"The performance of the media may be degraded significantly if used repeatedly"

HUH? Has any other recorder or SD device ever carried such a disclaimer?

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #39 on: December 04, 2015, 05:48:43 PM »
Same list I was looking at and there aren't and PNY cards on that list!
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #40 on: December 04, 2015, 06:30:51 PM »
There are only  14 Sandisk and 4 Panasonic cards on that list of which 3 are NG.  At least they gave fair warning that these 3 cards didn't work like the other models in the same line.   

If the PNY elite card works fine, it could be that Tascam just didn't test it, but only Tascam would know.  Or they went out and only bought what they thought were the  "best" and/or least likely to give trouble to test?  Who knows.   



 

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #41 on: December 04, 2015, 07:45:35 PM »
New list link?

http://tascam.com/content/downloads/products/867/dr-70d_tested_media_list_20151006.pdf

"The performance of the media may be degraded significantly if used repeatedly"

HUH? Has any other recorder or SD device ever carried such a disclaimer?

I never saw this before elsewhere, so I just took a look through a bunch of the other Tascam recorders.  Check out the media lists for the DR-22WL, DR-44WL and DR-680 MKII.

The DR-680 MKII has one SanDisk listed with pretty much the same designation you quote from the DR-70D list:
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※1 
After repeated use, the write performance of this card deteriorates. It is suggested that
periodically audio files get transferred to a computer and the unit's ERASE FORMAT function is
used prior to further recording use.

EDIT: It appears that Tascam Europe has a different media list for the DR-680 than the US site, with 5 additional cards not on the USA list, and 4 out of those 5 cards having the above designation.


The DR-22WL has one SanDisk designated as "C. Pass" which appears to mean the same thing as *1 for the 680D and 70D:
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C.Pass = Conditional pass. Use the card after the format.

The DR-44WL has quite a few cards designated "C. Pass", most of them SanDisk.

So that qualification is not unique to the 70D, but maybe unique to Tascam in general.

One other thing interesting about the DR-22WL list is the 13 Lexar cards tested, all listed as "Fail".


As to why there are no recommended PNY cards or other brands, it looks like the media lists for newer Tascam recorders only have SanDisk, Panasonic, and Lexar.  Sometimes only two of those, maybe based on all the Lexar failures with 22-WL.  So my guess is that they just aren't bothering with other brands.

BTW - what list was the PNY card ever on?  I can't find any PNY cards on any Tascam list, on either the USA or EU sites.  I understand that the wrong media list for the 70D was posted on the Europe site, but the wrong list that was there was supposedly for the 100MKII.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2015, 07:57:28 PM »
We all have our irrational prejudices wrt. cards and media. I mean irrational, because all cards and all media can fail and they generally are not too far apart from each other. FWIW, my irrational bias is that I avoid Lexar cards - I've had bad luck with them. I can't cite any statistics and objective evidence - which is why I call it prejudice... just personal experiences that drove me to such an (irrational) view. Same as I distrust Seagate and WD drives, and prefer Toshiba HDD. I am horrified to read about all the card failures with the 70D - I have not as yet had any, but now I distrust the 70D and wonder if I should keep using it... a decision made somewhat easier in that while the 70D has some advantages over the 60D (4 xlr), I must say, there are some advantages of the 60D (which I own) over the 70D too - primarily in button and menu control. I'm waiting for the 701D feedback, and if it's good, and the price falls closer to $300 - $400 instead of the $600 listed right now, I may switch to the 701D and leave the 70D behind.

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2015, 08:29:11 PM »
New list link?

http://tascam.com/content/downloads/products/867/dr-70d_tested_media_list_20151006.pdf

"The performance of the media may be degraded significantly if used repeatedly"

HUH? Has any other recorder or SD device ever carried such a disclaimer?
thats tascam covering their ass as people reported errors with approved cards they started sating that if you don't format it or it gets close to full blah blah you could have issues
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2015, 08:36:47 PM »
I don't see any PNY cards on the approved list.  Same card that I have been using as well


I picked a pny 64gig card from the approved media list.


Great hanging last night...For those asking its the PNY Elite. Its pricey but I have not had an issue using said card and use format right in the machine.

Same here, I use 128GB PNY Elite's and haven't had any issues. I have ran into issues using them in my 680mkII but that's another story.  ::)
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