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What do you guys think? Will R-07 be the successor to the popular but discontinued R-05 and M10?

At least it looks great. Available in three colors. Black, white and red.

- Dual Recording function for making two simultaneous recordings—one at full level and another at a lower level to prevent clipping.
- Hybrid Limiter.
- Bluetooth wireless headphone and speaker monitoring.
- Bluetooth remote control with smartphone and supported smartwatches
- One-touch Scene function for instant setup in any recording scenario.
- Rehearsal function for perfect input levels with a single touch.
- Playback and/or recording approximately 15 hours with 2 x LR6/AA alkaline batteries.

Width: 61 mm / 2.40"
Depth: 103 mm / 4.06"
Height: 26 mm / 1.02"
Weight: 150 g / 5.3 oz

Estimated price:  $229.

Ask Audio: Roland Announces R-07 High-Resolution Audio Recorder

B&H: Roland R-07 Portable Audio Recorder

YouTube video: YouTube video: Roland R-07 Overview

« Last Edit: January 09, 2018, 07:10:15 AM by TheMetalist »
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Re: A look at ROLAND R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2018, 08:31:58 AM »
At first glance I like the look of it.  The internal mics are discreet, and the red color can actually make it look like more of a consumer gadget than a serious recorder.  The wireless functionality further makes this look good for stealthing.

ETA: I see it's available in multiple colors.  All the better.  That way someone who wants black can get it, and someone who wants a color can choose that.  I guess my only concern for stealthing is it looks like it might have a lot of metal in the body...?
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Re: A look at ROLAND R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2018, 09:16:53 AM »
Size comparison:

R-07: 2.40 x 4.06 x 1.02
R-05: 2.4 x 4.1 x 1
M10: 2.5 x 4.5 x 0.9

Weight comparison:

R-07: 5.3 oz / 150.0 g, including batteries
R-05: 5 oz (140g) [not specified whether this is with batteries]
M10: 6.6 oz (187 g) (With Batteries)

Given the weight of the R-07 I doubt it has a lot of metal to it after all.  I'm really excited about this thing.  Dual record and being able to control it remotely via phone are exactly the things I would want if someone asked me what could be added to the R-05 (though a digital in to use this as a bit bucket would be the icing on the cake).  Now my only question is how the mic/aux in jack will work...will it behave like the R-05 mic in, line in, or some combination of both?
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Re: A look at ROLAND R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2018, 09:25:03 AM »
That red one looks a lot like a phone..perfect. My M10 is now 7 years old, so a replacement will be needed at some point.

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Re: A look at ROLAND R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2018, 09:55:38 AM »
Oh, great.

This is certainly a must or me. Both my handhelds - an M10 and an LS-11 -  are discontinued, and I'm weary of putting them at risk. Unless nitial tests reveal something terrible going onwith the R-07's preamps, I'm certainly getting one.

The BT part is interesting. There have been a number of attempts at a remote-controlled handheld recorder lately, and I've found al of them lacking. The Tascams (44wl and 22wl) use WiFi, but they're shitty recorders. The Sony ICD-SX2000 hasa great-looking app, but a lot of flaws as a serious recorder (high noise floor, non-replaceable battery, etc.). The Olympus LS-P2 looks better, but is also noisy and lacks a line-in conection.

So, fingers crossed, the R-07 might just be "it".

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Re: A look at ROLAND R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2018, 10:03:14 AM »
The internal mics are discreet
Dual record and being able to control it remotely via phone are exactly the things I would want if someone asked me what could be added to the R-05

Yes. I will probably go Roland when my Sony M10 fails me. If not sooner than that. I hope we will get some in depth reviews soon.
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Re: Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2018, 12:20:34 PM »
looks pretty good from a scan of it/specs

what I don't understand with Roland and Tascam though is why they need to come out with a new recorder over and over??
IMO if you get it right like the Sony M10 you are golden, seems these two brands are constantly releasing something new.
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Re: Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2018, 02:01:01 PM »
runs up to 15 hours on two AA batteries


Finally, someone, besides Sony, built a handheld recorder that can record longer than 5 1/2 hours.  It's been 12 years since the M10 debuted....    ::)

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Re: Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2018, 02:28:33 PM »
what I don't understand with Roland and Tascam though is why they need to come out with a new recorder over and over??
IMO if you get it right like the Sony M10 you are golden, seems these two brands are constantly releasing something new.

I think it's great that they develop new products. Handheld recorders are less important today than a few years back as most people prefer to use their smartphones for everything. As Sony more or less has disappeared from the market I'm glad Roland and Tascam are still here for us. I have actually been a bit worried about M10 being discontinued. Hopefully R-07 will be the perfect replacement.
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Re: Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2018, 02:39:01 PM »
Love the R-05 and have found it to be more user friendly than the Sony M10.

Is there line level input on the R-07? It looks like they have moved to a single mic/aux input.  Is aux = line? and if yes why have 2 inputs on the R-05?

Micro-SD cards on the R-07 too.
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Re: Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2018, 02:55:49 PM »
runs up to 15 hours on two AA batteries


Finally, someone, besides Sony, built a handheld recorder that can record longer than 5 1/2 hours.  It's been 12 years since the M10 debuted....    ::)

I have never used a R-05 myself but according to the specs the recording time is approx 16 hours with alkaline batteries. If that is incorrect, perhaps we can expect the R-07 to actually have less recording time as well.
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Re: Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2018, 03:01:29 PM »
Is there line level input on the R-07? It looks like they have moved to a single mic/aux input.  Is aux = line? and if yes why have 2 inputs on the R-05?

Correct. A single input.

Audio Inputs: 1 x 1/8" stereo jack Mic/Aux input (with plug-in power)
Nominal Input Level Mic/Aux Input: -31 dBu, variable (default input level, 0 dBu = 0.775 Vrms)
Input Impedance Mic/Aux Input: 4.5 kOhms

Perhaps someone more technically talented than me can explain if these specs are good or bad for using external mics with Nbox, IPA etc.
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Re: Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2018, 03:07:59 PM »
I'm guessing the mic/aux input will behave like that of the DR-05 (for example) where there's a menu option to turn on/off plug in power.  I certainly hope the thing can at least take an analog line in cleanly.
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Re: Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2018, 03:52:20 PM »
runs up to 15 hours on two AA batteries


Finally, someone, besides Sony, built a handheld recorder that can record longer than 5 1/2 hours.  It's been 12 years since the M10 debuted....    ::)

I have never used a R-05 myself but according to the specs the recording time is approx 16 hours with alkaline batteries. If that is incorrect, perhaps we can expect the R-07 to actually have less recording time as well.

Good job!  I never knew that and I own one.  That said, the R-05 received very little fanfare at TS.com.   Its Specs almost completely ignored, because the market was already flooded with high resolution recorders.  Smart move by Roland on the R-07.  Who's left to compete with it?  It looks like they have the Handheld market to themselves.......
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Re: Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2018, 04:14:48 PM »
I like the bluetooth monitoring feature and am curious to see what that actually looks like.  I wonder if the bluetooth playback will pair with a car stereo for the ride home from a gig.  If it connects to BT headphones or a BT speaker I cannot see why not.
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