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Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« on: January 25, 2018, 09:57:57 AM »
Just curious if this is a good idea? I am sure there are drawbacks, such as Iphone 8 not having the headphone jack.
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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2018, 10:20:38 AM »
Is this another stealth info  thread?  :cheers:
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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2018, 10:57:21 AM »
I've never posted here, so I plead ignorance on that. I see the advantage of using the iphone and Ipod in some venues with security concerns, but, I also see this as a possible secondary recording device. I've heard issues that Apple may only record in mono. Other issues might be old information, such as the overall sound quality.

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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2018, 11:20:11 AM »

The search function is your friend...it's the button right between HELP and PROFILE in the header bar. I would suggest narrowing your search by choosing specific topics to search in.

There have been numerous threads here about using an iPhone as a recorder
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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2018, 11:26:43 AM »
Some people have had success using the DPA d:Vice to record using an iPhone.  It's not cheap, but seems to be working well from the little I've read.  Here's the thread about it: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=181868.0
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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2018, 09:52:49 AM »
Some people have had success using the DPA d:Vice to record using an iPhone.  It's not cheap, but seems to be working well from the little I've read.  Here's the thread about it: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=181868.0
Thanks,
I have a pretty basic setup right now with Church audio mics and tascam DR-05.
Without investing a lot  in equipment, does it make sense to use the iphone instead of the DR05?

I have searched through threads and not really hear a lot of opinions. There's posts about the gear,but, not a lot of comments on the actual recordings.
I do look at the bit torrent sites and do not notice recordings with the ios.
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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2018, 10:23:08 AM »
Some people have had success using the DPA d:Vice to record using an iPhone.  It's not cheap, but seems to be working well from the little I've read.  Here's the thread about it: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=181868.0
Thanks,
I have a pretty basic setup right now with Church audio mics and tascam DR-05.
Without investing a lot  in equipment, does it make sense to use the iphone instead of the DR05?

I have searched through threads and not really hear a lot of opinions. There's posts about the gear,but, not a lot of comments on the actual recordings.
I do look at the bit torrent sites and do not notice recordings with the ios.
Thanks

Check the cost of the DPA 4060 > d:vice at B&H and you'll see why it's not being used as much.  It's VERY expensive (US$1435 for a matched pair of mics and a d:vice).  There are people using them around here and some shows have ended up on DIME. 

You can't use the iPhone (at least in a clean, true 24-bit manner) without the d:vice so since you're NOT wanting to invest a lot in equipment, it's best not to consider this.  It's an expensive outlay but a pretty simple and easy to use setup. 
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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2018, 10:50:13 AM »
It can be done cheaply and successfully, but the best method I've found is using the now discontinued Tascam iXj2.

Here's an example of a comparison I did.

https://soundcloud.com/quisquose/stealth-concert-recording-sony-pcm-m10-versus-iphone-tascam-ixj2-ver-2
 

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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2018, 10:58:03 AM »
Some people have had success using the DPA d:Vice to record using an iPhone.  It's not cheap, but seems to be working well from the little I've read.  Here's the thread about it: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=181868.0
Thanks,
I have a pretty basic setup right now with Church audio mics and tascam DR-05.
Without investing a lot  in equipment, does it make sense to use the iphone instead of the DR05?

I have searched through threads and not really hear a lot of opinions. There's posts about the gear,but, not a lot of comments on the actual recordings.
I do look at the bit torrent sites and do not notice recordings with the ios.
Thanks

Personally, I'd get a battery box or preamp (if you don't already have one) to run between the mics and the DR05 before I'd try to record using a phone.  That will be much less expensive and possibly more reliable.
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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2018, 11:31:11 AM »
It can be done cheaply and successfully, but the best method I've found is using the now discontinued Tascam iXj2.

Here's an example of a comparison I did.

https://soundcloud.com/quisquose/stealth-concert-recording-sony-pcm-m10-versus-iphone-tascam-ixj2-ver-2

But, IIRC, it's discontinued, uses the old iPhone port, and is 16/44 only.
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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2018, 11:44:57 AM »
You should be able to use a sonicport as an alternative to the D:vice or tascam (for 24/48)

microphones > battery box > 1/8 out > sonicport > iphone.


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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2018, 03:54:58 PM »
Thanks everyone, it seems to sound like it's not a great idea.
I'll probably use my DR05, but, I thought the iphone would be good for a second source recording.

https://www.micreviews.com/guides/top-10-best-ios-microphones

The link on the articles reviews some mics, but, I wonder about the recording quality, whether the mics can handle the volume, etc.

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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2018, 04:12:38 PM »
https://www.micreviews.com/guides/top-10-best-ios-microphones

The link on the articles reviews some mics, but, I wonder about the recording quality, whether the mics can handle the volume, etc.
I think somebody on here has used the Shure MV88, and got a good recording from it at a Who show.
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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2018, 04:42:46 PM »


I have both a Zoom IQ5 and a IQ7. I used them fro hand streaming via mixlr and they are pretty good. Using a lightning connected microphone to record to an iphone is certainly a possibility. Although overall audio quality would not rival better microphones etc, the ability to get in better locations sound wise is a big advantage.
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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2018, 09:46:32 PM »
don't ride the apple train to stupidville.


job is art
tools are everything

using good tools to get a job done right is art
that's why job is art
its always been art

if you are using a phone to rec as a tool
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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2018, 06:21:51 AM »
It can be done cheaply and successfully, but the best method I've found is using the now discontinued Tascam iXj2.

Here's an example of a comparison I did.

https://soundcloud.com/quisquose/stealth-concert-recording-sony-pcm-m10-versus-iphone-tascam-ixj2-ver-2

But, IIRC, it's discontinued, uses the old iPhone port, and is 16/44 only.

It's still easy to obtain on eBay and I picked up a spare for $30 recently. It's actually more convenient with the 30pin to lightning adapter, and Tascam underrated it and it's capable of 24/48.

It's what I use for stealthing now, but that might change when the R-07 arrives.

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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2018, 11:49:08 AM »
don't ride the apple train to stupidville.


job is art
tools are everything

using good tools to get a job done right is art
that's why job is art
its always been art

if you are using a phone to rec as a tool
...............YOU ARE A TOOL.....Full stop.


happy captures people

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Only TOOLS post stuff like in the quote above.  Read the thread on the d:vice.  Many veteran tapers are using it especially when in spots where security is tight.  It's about using a simple, low-profile rig, that records high quality.
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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2018, 12:16:44 PM »
don't ride the apple train to stupidville.


job is art
tools are everything

using good tools to get a job done right is art
that's why job is art
its always been art

if you are using a phone to rec as a tool
...............YOU ARE A TOOL.....Full stop.


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Only TOOLS post stuff like in the quote above.  Read the thread on the d:vice.  Many veteran tapers are using it especially when in spots where security is tight.  It's about using a simple, low-profile rig, that records high quality.

I agree 100% adrianf74.  I've been using iDevices to stream for 4+ years and using it in conjunction with the D:vice seems like a very cool tool for the right scenarios. I'm not a fan of people trying to push their biases on others. If you (boyacrobat )don't like Apple or whatever that's fine but don't suggest there is something wrong with others who have more open minds...
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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2018, 07:54:49 PM »
don't ride the apple train to stupidville.


job is art
tools are everything

using good tools to get a job done right is art
that's why job is art
its always been art

if you are using a phone to rec as a tool
...............YOU ARE A TOOL.....Full stop.


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What a waste of sperm this idiot turned out to be.
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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2018, 08:23:07 PM »
The d:vice solution is a VERY pricey one at the end of the day but it works very well.  I just jumped on a pair of matched 4060's with a d:vice and look forward to using it in the "real world."  Smallest pro sounding rig you can use and great in tighter spots (or when I don't feel like wearing full size caps, collettes, a deck, preamp, etc).  :)
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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2018, 07:44:19 AM »
did you ever understand why you use a phone to rec with?

the size of your balls will tell you what rec to use obsidian and everyone else reading

i fucking carry 3 dr2ds and 1 korg mr1 with ext power pack and many radios
i do not fear security and do not think about downgrading to a phone.

the size of my balls allows for many things to happen obsidian

dpa dvice was not designed for me it was designed for lazy pussys who are scared to carry a real rig
swallow the truth and get over it. its not like your the only pussy in the house.

all you dpa dvice people im not sorry for hurting your fucking feelings
i was born to spare no one i don't like and im not stopping today for any phone fuckers

now i will not comment anymore here on this thread because i have said my views.
feel very welcome to say whatever you like about me.
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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2018, 10:18:03 AM »
To paraphrase Cynthia Ozick: When you record stuff with your balls, what kind of SD card do you use?

A bunch of years back, I was interviewing a former athlete turned academic researcher about the connection between sports and violence for this article (https://www.villagevoice.com/2000/03/07/punch-like-a-man/), and he told me about one memorable experience when he was a offensive lineman for his college football team, and his coach decided to single him out when they were watching game films for not being aggressive enough. "Sabo!" the coach yelled, freezing the film to show him lining up for the play. "Sabo!! What're you doing out there, squatting to pee?!?"

That's stuck in my head ever since as a perfect example of how misogyny, homophobia, and male-on-male abuse all combine to reinforce a culture of violence that harms women and men alike. But the previous comment isn't a bad one, either.

(Sorry for the topic drift.)

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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2018, 11:05:43 AM »
did you ever understand why you use a phone to rec with?

the size of your balls will tell you what rec to use obsidian and everyone else reading

i fucking carry 3 dr2ds and 1 korg mr1 with ext power pack and many radios
i do not fear security and do not think about downgrading to a phone.

the size of my balls allows for many things to happen obsidian

dpa dvice was not designed for me it was designed for lazy pussys who are scared to carry a real rig
swallow the truth and get over it. its not like your the only pussy in the house.

all you dpa dvice people im not sorry for hurting your fucking feelings
i was born to spare no one i don't like and im not stopping today for any phone fuckers

now i will not comment anymore here on this thread because i have said my views.
feel very welcome to say whatever you like about me.
i love all opinions of me and love the nasty shit , bring it on knuckleheads show me what you got
even though im not responding know im enjoying every bit of it.

the finger is the the full stop

g





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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2018, 04:56:59 PM »
obsidian, boyacrobat -- You're both out of line.  Please stop.
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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2018, 02:04:48 AM »
Just got back from working in Provo, UT this weekend, and driving up to SLC to see Chris Robinson Brotherhood twice. I test ed out the Shure MV-88, $144 from Amazon, which plugs into the lightening port. I had an extension lightning cable, and used my iPad because my eyesight's poor and the bigger screen was helpful. Had a first listen on home playback gear and was impressed. Not sounding like Shoeps->Foster FR-2, but nice sound for the price, which includes pretty cool software for controlling the mic, which is m/s, and recording. On my iPhonex, it used 4% of the battery to record 1:30 at 24/48, so no worries there. For fun, left it in my pocket at the airport, and it didn't set off the metal detector, which is nice to know as they're in use (Warfield) these days.

Anyway, need to listen more, but impressive for something so cheap and easy to stealth/use.

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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2018, 02:13:50 PM »
I use the Tascam iXJ2 to record to the iPhone with very good results. In fact I have two of them and usually make 2 recordings at most shows these days, one with a set of Sound Professional SP-CMC-2 (AT831's) and one with Church Audio mics (CA11 or CAFS). The sound quality is not noticeably different than what I was getting with my PCM-M10. I bought both iXJ2's on eBay for about $30 a piece. I use a Lightning adapter cable to attach to an iPhone 6 or iPhone 6S. I use Twisted WAV to record. And while I've always recorded 16/44, you can record 24/48 with this setup if you so choose. I do use battery boxes.

I do find this setup to be a bit less reliable than the PCM-M10, which was pretty idiot proof. I did once have one recording cut out on me in the middle of the show (I was doing two recordings that day, so I didn't lose anything), and another time one of the switches got moved on the iXJ2 which resulted in only one channel being recorded (Again, I was doing two recordings). I solved the latter problem by using black tape to keep the switches in place. I never did figure out the problem with the one time it just stopped. It's possible that the phone unlocked in my pocket, and the screen got pressed in a way that paused the recording, or I put it in my pocket without locking the screen. The last show I did there was some skipping at the beginning of the show, but I forgot to put my phone in airplane mode. I also recommend closing out of all other apps as well. Battery life hasn't been a problem. Seems to use about 10% for every hour recorded with the screen off. I have a number of recording on DIME and one on Traders Den and Yeeshkul using this setup if you want to check them out.


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Re: Does anyone use Iphone or Ipd to record shows
« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2018, 01:16:28 PM »
Finally tracked out the CRB show I recorded using the Shure MV88. You can take a listen here:
https://archive.org/details/CRB2018-02-03.MV88.flac16

No DSP, just triming in Audacity.

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