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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #45 on: March 11, 2018, 07:29:02 PM »
Hello. I would like to ask you if there is a recorder like Sony m10 without mics and headphone?

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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #46 on: March 28, 2018, 10:22:05 PM »
CCM4>Tinybox>M10 has been good to me.  Super long battery life on Tinybox and M10 both and is a rig about as small as I have ever seen.

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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2018, 02:40:51 AM »
Hello. I would like to ask you if there is a recorder like Sony m10 without mics and headphone?

New Zoom F1?
Got mine a couple days ago and will test it on the gig tomorrow  ::)

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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #48 on: April 25, 2018, 11:27:01 PM »
Schoeps ccm4>tinybox>r05
Dpa4022>sonosax>r05
Dpa4061>mma6000>r05


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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #49 on: April 26, 2018, 10:06:50 AM »
Mics>NBox>recorder is the ultimate for many folks around here.

Schoeps ccm4>tinybox>r05
Dpa4022>sonosax>r05
Dpa4061>mma6000>r05

To me the microphones and preamp/mic-powering-box are the key elements. Use whatever small recorder you like or have on hand behind that: R-05, M10, Tascam, Olympus, whatever.. F1 would seem to be the current champ for maximum tininess potential.  Dr2d works for me (no other comparable option for 4 ch) and the original R-09 prior to that.

MMA6000 is overly large for stealth IMHO.  CA-UGLY works just as well with the DPA miniatures, is 1/4 the size, and passes most metal detectors.  I made that switch 10 years ago.
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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #50 on: April 26, 2018, 10:10:02 AM »
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The obvious exception to this the new DPA d:Vice preamp with USB out to a smartphone, eliminating a separate recorder. 

It is probably the most stealthy arrangement currently available as the preamp is a small, flat puck and the recorder is the phone.  I don't know of anyone here who's done it yet, but the new DPA MMP-GR/GS modular cable which allows non-miniature modular DPA capsules to be used into the d:Vice should also allow those capsules to work with any PIP battery box or miniature preamp that provides low-voltage mic power.  Strong potential for an ultimate stealth rig there.

So one could do something like this:

DPA4015>MMP-GR/GS cable>d:Vice>phone
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DPA4015>MMP-GR/GS cable>whatever miniature preamp batt/box>whatever miniature recorder
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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #51 on: April 26, 2018, 10:56:11 AM »
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I love my DPA d:screet 4060 mics > d:vice > iPhone.  Personally, it's pretty much fool proof and can be used anywhere without issue.  Granted, I'm recording the drunk asshat next to me but if I'm using Schoeps MK41s > nBox > recorder, I'm also recording said drunk wook so it really makes little difference to me.  I prefer not to be a human mic stand so the 4060's are my current go to.

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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #52 on: April 26, 2018, 11:48:18 AM »
I like this rig a lot for metal detector stealth.
IMG_7490 2 by Steve Brothers, on Flickr

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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #53 on: April 26, 2018, 11:54:12 AM »
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I love my DPA d:screet 4060 mics > d:vice > iPhone.  Personally, it's pretty much fool proof and can be used anywhere without issue.  Granted, I'm recording the drunk asshat next to me but if I'm using Schoeps MK41s > nBox > recorder, I'm also recording said drunk wook so it really makes little difference to me.  I prefer not to be a human mic stand so the 4060's are my current go to.

So I could use my DPA 4061 with this new d:secret? What about DPA 4023? I was reading about it but wondered how well it would work. Using the DPA 4022, schoeps ccm4 are a bit cumbersome since I am a human mic stand.  Although, the omni's tend to pick up everyone around me, but does allow me to be a bit more mobile with my stature.

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« Reply #54 on: April 26, 2018, 12:28:55 PM »
^ if your DPAs terminate to microdots, which I assume is the case since you use the MMA6000, then yes.

However, only the newer 40xx discrete capsules can be connected to the newer MMA-GR/GS cables that terminate to microdots can be run with the MMA d:vice "puck". The older 402x line will not pair with the d:vice, however.

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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #55 on: April 26, 2018, 12:50:13 PM »
I like this rig a lot for metal detector stealth.
IMG_7490 2 by Steve Brothers, on Flickr

I use the Tascam DR-2D but yes, that's easy to get through metal detectors.  I still use the NBox Platinum except for the hardest venues.

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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #56 on: April 26, 2018, 12:57:31 PM »
I like this rig a lot for metal detector stealth.
IMG_7490 2 by Steve Brothers, on Flickr
pardon my ignorance but when you say metal detector stealth are you saying that the metal detectors don't pick this up or just that the equipment looks innocuous enough that you don't get hassled?
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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #57 on: April 26, 2018, 02:23:40 PM »
^ if your DPAs terminate to microdots, which I assume is the case since you use the MMA6000, then yes.

However, only the newer 40xx discrete capsules can be connected to the newer MMA-GR/GS cables that terminate to microdots can be run with the MMA d:vice "puck". The older 402x line will not pair with the d:vice, however.

Wow.... I had no idea that was the case. That is unbelievably awesome.
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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #58 on: April 26, 2018, 02:43:23 PM »
^ if your DPAs terminate to microdots, which I assume is the case since you use the MMA6000, then yes.

However, only the newer 40xx discrete capsules can be connected to the newer MMA-GR/GS cables that terminate to microdots can be run with the MMA d:vice "puck". The older 402x line will not pair with the d:vice, however.

Wow.... I had no idea that was the case. That is unbelievably awesome.

Cables are US$430 a pop.  And then capsules at $1300 a pop.  Not cheap but I'm sure it'd work nicely.

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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #59 on: April 26, 2018, 02:54:41 PM »
^ if your DPAs terminate to microdots, which I assume is the case since you use the MMA6000, then yes.

However, only the newer 40xx discrete capsules can be connected to the newer MMA-GR/GS cables that terminate to microdots can be run with the MMA d:vice "puck". The older 402x line will not pair with the d:vice, however.

Wow.... I had no idea that was the case. That is unbelievably awesome.

Yes it is. 

Will be very curious to hear of anyone here using the 40xx discrete caps + MMA-GR/GS cables without the MMA d:vice "puck" into the preamps and recorders we already use and know well at TS.   That's a non-officially supported configuration, but is what immediately came to mind as a possibility when I first learned of the MMA-GR/GS cables.
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