Topic: Card's advice

[AndyLGR]

Many, many tapers have posted that the smaller CMC-8 cards have an inferior sound to either the CMC-4U's based on the larger 853 capsule or the CA-14's mostly due to poor base response.

I asked sound professionals as to which they deemed to be the best out of the CMC-8 and the CMC-4U and they said the 4U's were better than the 8's. So I think it will be between these 2 for the ones I go for.

I really like the idea of a matrix using a set of cards and omnis too.

Thanks everyone for the advice, pics and samples. Much appreciated.

[adrianf74]

Many, many tapers have posted that the smaller CMC-8 cards have an inferior sound to either the CMC-4U's based on the larger 853 capsule or the CA-14's mostly due to poor base response.

I asked sound professionals as to which they deemed to be the best out of the CMC-8 and the CMC-4U and they said the 4U's were better than the 8's. So I think it will be between these 2 for the ones I go for.

I really like the idea of a matrix using a set of cards and omnis too.

Thanks everyone for the advice, pics and samples. Much appreciated.

As mentioned previously by myself (and others): the CA-14 cards will be the less expensive route and will yield the results you're looking for.  I wouldn't buy the 4U's for the extra money as there is no benefit there (except for changeable caps if that's what you need).

[acidjack]

Many, many tapers have posted that the smaller CMC-8 cards have an inferior sound to either the CMC-4U's based on the larger 853 capsule or the CA-14's mostly due to poor base response.

I asked sound professionals as to which they deemed to be the best out of the CMC-8 and the CMC-4U and they said the 4U's were better than the 8's. So I think it will be between these 2 for the ones I go for.

I really like the idea of a matrix using a set of cards and omnis too.

Thanks everyone for the advice, pics and samples. Much appreciated.

As mentioned previously by myself (and others): the CA-14 cards will be the less expensive route and will yield the results you're looking for.  I wouldn't buy the 4U's for the extra money as there is no benefit there (except for changeable caps if that's what you need).

..... I believe the OP is in Europe, and may require faster delivery time, in which I'm not sure I agree with you.

[youngsbest]

Something else you may wish to consider is that cards are much more sensitive to handling noise. So if you are attaching your mics to clothing then for quiet music - unamplified piano for example - you will get a lot a rustling whenever you move, which you won't get with omnis.

[SmokinJoe]

If you buy AT853's aka CMC-4U, be sure to get the "low sensitivity mod", else they will distort at loud shows.
(Credit due Chris Church, etc).

[AndyLGR]

..... I believe the OP is in Europe, and may require faster delivery time, in which I'm not sure I agree with you.

Yes I’m in the UK and will be looking to get the new mics for shows coming up at the end of Nov/beginning Dec.

As mentioned previously by myself (and others): the CA-14 cards will be the less expensive route and will yield the results you're looking for.  I wouldn't buy the 4U's for the extra money as there is no benefit there (except for changeable caps if that's what you need).

Are the CA-14’s cards comparable quality wise to mics like CMC-8 or CMC-4U?

If you buy AT853's aka CMC-4U, be sure to get the "low sensitivity mod", else they will distort at loud shows. (Credit due Chris Church, etc).

Is that just for these mics, what if I went for the CMC-8?

Something else you may wish to consider is that cards are much more sensitive to handling noise. So if you are attaching your mics to clothing then for quiet music - unamplified piano for example - you will get a lot a rustling whenever you move, which you won't get with omnis.

Thanks. I haven’t tried it, but I wonder if I could get away with my CA-14 omnis being under a thin shirt. But clearly that isn’t the case for cards then.