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Re: Sony PCM-M10 audio recorder - NEW
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2009, 03:10:57 PM »
desertsky, just to answer your question, DSD has been "dead in the water" in the professional audio market for some time now--maybe two, three years already?--and as far as I'm aware, Sony has stopped promoting it.

In carefully controlled listening tests it failed to live up to the extravagant claims that were made for its sonic qualities; it turned out not to offer any detectable audible difference from linear PCM. It was far more cumbersome for studios to edit and process, and really just didn't offer any benefit other than to the coffers of certain manufacturers.

So it's gone--not altogether forgotten yet, but not widely mourned, either, I must say.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 audio recorder - NEW
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2009, 05:21:16 PM »
Being smaller a D50 and having a MicroSD slot I think it will give the R-9hr a run for the money!

Seems like Sony is being a little more flexible in the market. At least there's one less Sony accessory that you have to buy!
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 audio recorder - NEW
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2009, 10:18:58 PM »
The D50 has gone down in price to give way to the upcoming M10...Now you can get a new one in ebay for $299.99...
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 audio recorder - NEW
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2009, 01:10:07 AM »
The D50 has gone down in price to give way to the upcoming M10...Now you can get a new one in ebay for $299.99...

I have a bid in on one of those. Hope i win at that price.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 audio recorder - NEW
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2009, 04:45:37 PM »
This device looks great.  Only wish it had XLR inputs w/P48, like the Marantz PMD 661... I would definitely buy one then.  As it is, I don't see much reason to get this over the R-09HR which I already own.  It is nice looking though.  8)

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 audio recorder - NEW
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2009, 12:13:13 AM »
The D50 has gone down in price to give way to the upcoming M10...Now you can get a new one in ebay for $299.99...

There doesn't appear to be any PCM-D50s selling on ebay for anywhere near that (I just looked). Seems to start at around USD$449, just like it is selling at B&H after requesting a 'better price'...

Seems to me they are adding to the line-up rather than replacing (no optical in or out, no movable mics, plastic mic and headphone jacks and what I'm guessing will be no rotary volume knob...), but time will tell - and of course many will be attracted to the lower-priced model just as they were when the PCM-D50 came out while the PCM-D1 was (and is) still selling.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 audio recorder - NEW
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2009, 03:49:18 AM »
The D50 has gone down in price to give way to the upcoming M10...Now you can get a new one in ebay for $299.99...

There doesn't appear to be any PCM-D50s selling on ebay for anywhere near that (I just looked). Seems to start at around USD$449, just like it is selling at B&H after requesting a 'better price'...

Seems to me they are adding to the line-up rather than replacing (no optical in or out, no movable mics, plastic mic and headphone jacks and what I'm guessing will be no rotary volume knob...), but time will tell - and of course many will be attracted to the lower-priced model just as they were when the PCM-D50 came out while the PCM-D1 was (and is) still selling.

Several d50's (5) on ebay starting at 299.99 we'll see if I win it at that or not.

Sony PCM-D50 Recorder - NEW!
Item condition:   New
Time left:   1 day 11 hours (Jul 29, 200912:06:54 PDT)
Bid history:   1 BidSee history
Current bid:   US $299.99
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 audio recorder - NEW
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2009, 05:00:39 AM »
OK, I didn't see any until visiting ebay.com (instead of com.au, even though I searched worldwide, stores, etc)
I'd be extremely surprised that seller lets them go at that price. Outside of eBay I have seen no real price-slashings.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 audio recorder - NEW
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2009, 07:59:58 PM »

At least this one doesn't have a roll cage on it.  :yack:


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Re: Sony PCM-M10 audio recorder - NEW
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2009, 03:20:41 AM »
OK, I didn't see any until visiting ebay.com (instead of com.au, even though I searched worldwide, stores, etc)

Sorry about the threadjack, but this is one of my biggest grievances with ebay.
As tekdroid noticed, even selecting "worldwide" won't show you all results.

Some overseas items are hidden, for no apparent reason. After spending hours with ebay's live support, they admitted items are being hidden from searches if they don't comply to certain payment and shipping options of that particular country (courtesy of last years Paypal/bank transfer shakeup).

Fortunately, there is a workaround. Under Advanced search, select "Only show items located in Any country/region".
Logically, one would assume that this yields the same results as "Worldwide", but it doesn't!

Sample search for "Sony PCM D50" (incl. store inventory)

On ebay.com, using default basic search: 25 auctions, 16 store items = 41
On ebay.com, using Worldwide search: 25 auctions, 18 store items = 43
On ebay.com, using Any country/region: 25 auctions, 22 store items =47

On ebay.com.au, using default basic search: 14 auctions, 18 store items = 32
On ebay.com.au, using Worldwide search: 14 auctions, 18 store items = 32
On ebay.com.au, using Any country/region: 25 auctions, 22 store items =47

So you see, it doesn't really matter which national site you use when you search! As long as you use the "Any country/region" setting, you'll get the same results.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 audio recorder - NEW
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2009, 07:42:02 PM »
Being smaller a D50 and having a MicroSD slot I think it will give the R-9hr a run for the money!

Seems like Sony is being a little more flexible in the market. At least there's one less Sony accessory that you have to buy!
When I was trying to decide between the Fostex FR-2le and the D-50, it was the cost of CF vs Memory Stick that made the decision easier.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 audio recorder - NEW
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2009, 12:07:03 AM »
Didn't see anyone mention this hands-on demo on youtube of the M10 in real life:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqLJzFC8Ikw

Looks pretty good.  8)

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 audio recorder - NEW
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2009, 08:27:24 PM »

Despite initial reports of $399, B&H is showing it $299 (due in October still).

Those tiny MicroSD cards scare me off of this device. 4GB internal isn't enough, and I really don't want to screw around with MicroSD cards.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 audio recorder - NEW
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2009, 08:50:55 PM »

Despite initial reports of $399, B&H is showing it $299 (due in October still).

Those tiny MicroSD cards scare me off of this device. 4GB internal isn't enough, and I really don't want to screw around with MicroSD cards.

Wow, $300 retail is great news!  What's the deal with MicroSD though, have people had bad experiences with it (I can't think of any recorders that use microsd though)?

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 audio recorder - NEW
« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2009, 09:55:39 PM »
Wow, $300 retail is great news!  What's the deal with MicroSD though, have people had bad experiences with it (I can't think of any recorders that use microsd though)?

No other recorders use it. They are miniaturized SD cards that I've only seen used in cell phones.
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