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Offline MaidenBelgium

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Back into taping after interruption.... gear question
« on: February 25, 2016, 04:24:17 PM »
so, title says it all, what is new?

I have an edirol r05, with CMC8 mics + bass roll-off. Do I need anything new... a new recorder I mean. What is best "quality-price" recorder?

Need your opinions please :-)

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Re: Back into taping after interruption.... gear question
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2016, 04:48:26 PM »
If it ain't broke it will still work. 

"Best" is subjective.  I had an R-05.  It was fine until it stopped working (the input connections came loose at the PCB and line-in started dropping out/not working).  They're still making them. 

I like the Sony PCM M-10 that replaced it more.  YMMV. 
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Tinybox > Sony PCM-M10 (formerly Roland R-05) 
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Re: Back into taping after interruption.... gear question
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2016, 05:07:18 PM »
I'd stick with what you have for now. It works and you can't improve on it without spending at least 2X. One thing I would do is not use that bass rolloff and also find software you like. Software is something that improves constantly and makes a pretty huge difference.
Mics: Schoeps MK4V, MK41V, MK5, MK22> CMC6, KCY 250/5, KC5, NBob; MBHO MBP603/KA200N, AT 3031, DPA 4061 w/ d:vice, Naiant X-X, AT 853c, shotgun, Nak300
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Re: Back into taping after interruption.... gear question
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2016, 07:29:15 PM »
I like the Sony PCM M10 also. In fact, I like it so much I picked up another form the Yardsale recently.
Mics: CA-14(cards & omnis) and CA-11(cards & omnis) ; AT853's(cards, hypers, mini shotguns); Busman BSC-1 (cards, hypers, omnis)
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Re: Back into taping after interruption.... gear question
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2016, 05:58:44 PM »
ok thank you guys!

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Re: Back into taping after interruption.... gear question
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2016, 05:27:00 PM »
where can you buy audio gear online nowadays? Except soundprofessionals.... :-)

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Re: Back into taping after interruption.... gear question
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2016, 06:37:55 PM »
where can you buy audio gear online nowadays? Except soundprofessionals.... :-)

Um, here.  ;D   Seriously.  You can buy great gear for a fraction of the price, and the folks here won't screw you.  'Course, you have to prove you're trustworthy.  Learn the secret codes n@.

« Last Edit: June 07, 2016, 06:39:46 PM by boltman »

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Re: Back into taping after interruption.... gear question
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2016, 06:46:26 PM »
where can you buy audio gear online nowadays? Except soundprofessionals.... :-)

Yeah, the taperssection yard sale is where I always start.  Then if I have to go new, I go one of these places...

- I email justin marinoff at pro sound in NYC.  He serves ts members faithfully.  Search around here, you'll find his contact info  (pro sound is not to be confused with sound pros)
- Church Audio
- B&H photo and video
- Sweetwater
- Full Compass
- Musicians Friend
- Guitar Center

I've bought from all of these places and they all have alot of the same gear.  You just need to know what you want.  But for the small stealthy stuff, stick with Church Audio or sound pros.

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Re: Back into taping after interruption.... gear question
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2016, 08:23:48 PM »
where can you buy audio gear online nowadays? Except soundprofessionals.... :-)

Yeah, the taperssection yard sale is where I always start.  Then if I have to go new, I go one of these places...

- I email justin marinoff at pro sound in NYC.  He serves ts members faithfully.  Search around here, you'll find his contact info  (pro sound is not to be confused with sound pros)
- Church Audio
- B&H photo and video
- Sweetwater
- Full Compass
- Musicians Friend
- Guitar Center

I've bought from all of these places and they all have alot of the same gear.  You just need to know what you want.  But for the small stealthy stuff, stick with Church Audio or sound pros.

Or contact Nick aka Schoepsnbox if you are ready to spend some coin and get a kickass Schoeps stealth rig.

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Re: Back into taping after interruption.... gear question
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2016, 02:53:05 AM »
where can you buy audio gear online nowadays? Except soundprofessionals.... :-)

By looking at his nickname, I'd hazard a guess that he's from Belgium. ;)
So, ...

TS Yard Sale
nohypeaudio.com (Belgium)
thomann.de (Germany)
digitalaudioservice.de (Germany)
www.noyzboyz.nl (Netherlands)
cvp.com (UK)

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Re: Back into taping after interruption.... gear question
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2016, 03:16:52 PM »
thank you guys for info!!!

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Re: Back into taping after interruption.... gear question
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2016, 03:23:35 PM »
Are my AT943 (CMC8) outdated?

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Re: Back into taping after interruption.... gear question
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2016, 03:23:04 PM »
No, they're not
Mics: Schoeps MK4V, MK41V, MK5, MK22> CMC6, KCY 250/5, KC5, NBob; MBHO MBP603/KA200N, AT 3031, DPA 4061 w/ d:vice, Naiant X-X, AT 853c, shotgun, Nak300
Pres/Power: Aerco MP2, tinybox v2  [KCY], CA-UBB
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Re: Back into taping after interruption.... gear question
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2016, 03:24:09 AM »

Or contact Nick aka Schoepsnbox if you are ready to spend some coin and get a kickass Schoeps stealth rig.


yeah, maybe they can send you a photo of Chupacabra  and Nessie with it.

meaning: coin is not necessary for great sound.
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Re: Back into taping after interruption.... gear question
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2016, 01:21:05 AM »

Or contact Nick aka Schoepsnbox if you are ready to spend some coin and get a kickass Schoeps stealth rig.


yeah, maybe they can send you a photo of Chupacabra  and Nessie with it.

meaning: coin is not necessary for great sound.

Yep you are the expert on great sound.  I've heard many of your recordings. 

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Re: Back into taping after interruption.... gear question
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2016, 09:42:34 AM »
a little question: my CMC8 are annoying sometimes because when I stand, I have the battery box with bass rolloff hanging.... so I can replace it simply with my (very) old Sony ECM719. But when I switch it to my Edirol R05, first it is hard to plug it correctly, if you dont switch input power on, it doesnt work. But when this is done, I see that the sound reception is MUCH lower than with the CMC8 or even the internal mics. Is it normal or not? So I must raise the limit to the top...... Any advice?

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Re: Back into taping after interruption.... gear question
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2016, 02:16:45 PM »
Get an extension cable made by someone here (or locally) to run between mics & battery box if you need more length.  I use one when running on a stand.

FWIW - I get much lower levels w/ my ECM-717 on my R-09 than when using similar soundpros gear.  I had to boost a show recently recorded w/ the 717 by 13db while running near or at the max input setting.  Most of my SP-CMC-1>battbox recordings need 4-6db, if any at all with a much lower input setting required.  I am going to breaking out this rig again this summer.
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AT853c > 3-wire BB > LS10
AT853c > Tinybox > R-09

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Re: Back into taping after interruption.... gear question
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2016, 02:19:11 PM »
where can you buy audio gear online nowadays? Except soundprofessionals.... :-)

Yeah, the taperssection yard sale is where I always start.  Then if I have to go new, I go one of these places...

- I email justin marinoff at pro sound in NYC.  He serves ts members faithfully.  Search around here, you'll find his contact info  (pro sound is not to be confused with sound pros)
- Church Audio
- B&H photo and video
- Sweetwater
- Full Compass
- Musicians Friend
- Guitar Center

I've bought from all of these places and they all have alot of the same gear.  You just need to know what you want.  But for the small stealthy stuff, stick with Church Audio or sound pros.
fwiw I wouldn't do anything with church until. You do some research
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XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
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Re: Back into taping after interruption.... gear question
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2016, 06:34:46 PM »

Or contact Nick aka Schoepsnbox if you are ready to spend some coin and get a kickass Schoeps stealth rig.


yeah, maybe they can send you a photo of Chupacabra  and Nessie with it.

meaning: coin is not necessary for great sound.

Yep you are the expert on great sound.  I've heard many of your recordings.


it's not about being an expert insomuch as it is knowing that there is more than one way to skin a cat, and being proficient in all methods.

or, a $10,000 knife is not neccessary. you might look cool using it, but at the end of the day, it's not necessary when you can do the same job with a $100 knife.

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Re: Back into taping after interruption.... gear question
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2016, 09:08:44 PM »

Or contact Nick aka Schoepsnbox if you are ready to spend some coin and get a kickass Schoeps stealth rig.


yeah, maybe they can send you a photo of Chupacabra  and Nessie with it.

meaning: coin is not necessary for great sound.

Some coin isn't necessary for ok to good sound. Great sound.....yeah, it pretty much is. Schoeps, not necessarily. Coin, yes.
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