Topic: Combining different HD modes

[yousef]

A theoretical question at present but at some point in the future I imagine I'll be taking all three of my cameras to a gig and was wondering how best to combine the footage afterwards.

These are my cams:

Panasonic TM10 -1080i
Panasonic ZS3 - 720p
Sanyo HD200 - 1080p

Obviously, it's not an ideal setup in any event. I'm not even sure if you can dump the different formats into the same Vegas project.

I was wondering what the 'least worst' approach would be: to try and get everything upscaled to 1080p or down to 720p? Is either approach even possible? Or would it be better to film everything in the lowest common denominator setting?

Your thoughts would be much appreciated.

[beatkilla]

What is your final delivery format going to be?blu ray?dvd?web?

[shoestringconcerts]

Sony Vegas pro 9 or 10 should have no problem with editing those as a multicam

your can output it as whatever you want. i would suggest a 720p output since your digicam only shoots 720p

upscaling it doesnt make sense

[yousef]

Thanks for the replies.

I've not yet decided on the delivery format - either DVD or bluray depending on if the footage will justify the expence of going the bluray route.

The thinking behind upscaling was to preserve the quality of the footage from the 1080p camera. That is to say, to bring everything up to 1080p and have some genuine 1080p footage in there rather than bringing everything down to 720p. But I was wondering if the process of deinterlacing the interlaced footage might introduce too many artefacts and would therefore be worse in terms of overall effect than bringing the 1080p and 1080i down to 720p.

[shoestringconcerts]

using 1990'bluray mpeg2 technology will introduce more artifacting than deinterlacing would

final output should be an mov/avc/h264 based file for best quality

the reality is our eyes are so used to seeing poor quality highly compressed video(youtube, cable TV) that whatever you use for your final output will be higher quality

The ZS3 is not a particularly good camera so upscaling its footage is probably not a good idea

[stantheman1976]

Vegas should be able to handle them with no issues. I would drop them all in the timeline and set the project properties to the the lowest resolution footage you're using, in this case the 720p. Whatever your delivery format is don't render to a frame size bigger than that resolution.

[beatkilla]

Proper Deinterlacing is tricky and can be done numerous ways . The worst way is to blend fields which vegas is set to by default even if you have no intentions of deinterlacing your footage vegas has blended all your interlaced footage fields together unless you tell the project properties twice not to.

[sabre]

Why don't you just drop the camera that shoots in 720p and just work with the 1080i and 1080p footage?

[yousef]

Thanks for the further replies.

Good to know about Vegas defaulting to blending interlaced frames - I wouldn't have known about that otherwise.

Leaving the lowest resolution camera at home does seem sensible but I was thinking as it's there I may as well use it for something - probably just mounted at the back of the room for the occasional wide shot.

I was wondering - are there any issues with just mixing and matching the footage - i.e. leaving it all as-is and having a mix of 720p and 1080p on the finished product? I can understand the thinking behind bringing everything down to 720p but it seems a shame not to utilize footage in the highest quality available.

Similar question re combining the interlaced and progressive footage: is it possible to leave it all as-is on the finished disc and if so would it look strange flitting between the two formats?

[stantheman1976]

How could you have different formats on the finished product? When you render you have to pick a single format to render to. It doesn't matter how many different formats you put in the project, you still have to pick a single resolution and format to render to for your final product.

That's why it was suggested that if you're going to use the 720 camera to make your final render no larger than that. Trying to upsize a mediocre 720p camera to 1080p would look worse than dealing with the interlacing issues of 1080p and 1080i together.

[yousef]

Thanks for that.

I'll not be giving this a try until at least next month - no doubt I'll be reactivating this thread with many more questions then.

[shoestringconcerts]

Thanks for that.

I'll not be giving this a try until at least next month - no doubt I'll be reactivating this thread with many more questions then.

google is your friend

[yousef]

google is your friend

Thanks for that, "Tapersection Newbie". If my questions are too basic for you, please feel free to ignore them. In the meantime I'll continue to search for information using Google and ask specific questions here. 

[beatkilla]

Here's some good info for you.....

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtechbeta/interlacedvsprogressive.html

[yousef]

Here's some good info for you.....

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtechbeta/interlacedvsprogressive.html

Thanks for that - got lost in there for quite a while. I look forward to making my way through all that information...