Topic: hd-dvd or bluray

[John Kelly]

HD-DVD will win, because Sony is behind Blu-ray.

Incontrovertable proof! Case closed! 

Actually it's probably not too far off.  Lets look at the past:
BetaMax
MiniDisc
Memory Sticks
UMD
ATRAC

Their track record aint so great in this area.

[Cooker]

Digital8
the 3" DVD
Digital Cameras that write to floppies
that goddamn 7 pin cable...
there's plenty more that we're not thinking of.

SACD? Time will Tell.

[John Kelly]

Digital8
the 3" DVD
Digital Cameras that write to floppies
that goddamn 7 pin cable...
there's plenty more that we're not thinking of.

SACD? Time will Tell.

Hey now, I have a Digital 8 camera.   And in reality they're just digital recordings on 8mm tapes - a very cost effective way to go digital when DV was new and expensive.

And that 3" DVD isn't a Sony thing...

[Cooker]

i have one too. sure wish it was mini-dv tho.

[John Kelly]

i have one too. sure wish it was mini-dv tho.

Oh I have one, but I don't use it anymore.  I upgraded a while ago.

[Cooker]

speaking of which, i need a bigger battery for mine. on the christmas list it goes.

[Ed.]

cracked:
http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/27/aacs-drm-cracked-by-backuphddvd-tool/


I also hear that Samsung is considering making a dual format player.

[John Kelly]

cracked:
http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/27/aacs-drm-cracked-by-backuphddvd-tool/


I also hear that Samsung is considering making a dual format player.

HD-DVD being cracked pretty much assures it winning this "war" unless BluRay is cracked soon.

[newblue]

from the article...

"If true, this would instantly become the DeCSS of high def optical (where you at, Jon?), as AACS is the copy protection scheme used not only by HD DVD, but by Blu-ray as well."

Looks like Blu-Ray could be 'cracked' based on this.

[Ed.]

i bet they'll both be cracked shortly, if they're not already.

If the dual format player comes out, I'd call the war over.  that way both formats will coexist, just over time hd dvd will trump blu ray.

[John Kelly]

I was reading something that made a lot of sense to me - there really is no war going on.  The studios are supporting different formats exclusively, so you cannot go get the same movie on both formats.  So since there really are no competing titles, there is no war. 

Once a dual-format player comes out (if it does) the "war" will be over, as people will just buy for content instead of for a particular format.

[Ed.]

some movies are still showing up in both formats, but most are exclusive.

here's a list of some of the best and worst discs out this year:
http://www.highdefdigest.com/feature_best_high_def_discs_of_2006.html

[John Kelly]

some movies are still showing up in both formats, but most are exclusive.

Yeah?  Have any examples?

[pjdavep]

some movies are still showing up in both formats, but most are exclusive.

Yeah?  Have any examples?

Superman Returns, Corpse Bride, Italian Job, Last Samuri, U2: Rattle & Hum...

Most of Warner's titles will be dual releases, but some have only been released in one format (Batman Begins is only HD-DVD).  Paramount is the other studio that claims they will produce releases in both formats.

Later,
  pjdavep

[John Kelly]

some movies are still showing up in both formats, but most are exclusive.

Yeah?  Have any examples?

Superman Returns, Corpse Bride, Italian Job, Last Samuri, U2: Rattle & Hum...

Most of Warner's titles will be dual releases, but some have only been released in one format (Batman Begins is only HD-DVD).  Paramount is the other studio that claims they will produce releases in both formats.

Later,
  pjdavep

Ah gotcha.  Thanks!