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Does a SPDIF Coax > 1/8" Stero Mini Cable Exist???
« on: June 13, 2006, 12:46:20 PM »
This may be a dunb question, but does such a cable exist?

If so, does anyone know where to buy one?
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Re: Does a SPDIF Coax > 1/8" Stero Mini Cable Exist???
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2006, 12:50:45 PM »
What are you trying to accomplish?

One could pass a S/PDIF signal through a coax cable with one end of the cable terminated in an 1/8" stereo mini cable, but it would only be useful if the device to which the mini connected had a, well...mini stereo S/PDIF input.  I think some of the old DAT decks used a mini connector for S/PDIF signals.
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Re: Does a SPDIF Coax > 1/8" Stero Mini Cable Exist???
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2006, 12:53:09 PM »
I am curious if the output of a denecke ad-20 (coax) could terminate at an 1/8" mini to go line in in some of the new .WAV recorders that are available???  I know it works with my Sony M1 DAT, but i use a 7-pin with coax cable so it is different...but when i upgrade i want to know if the AD-20 will be obsolete to me since most of the WAV recorders have 1/8" mic in and line in inputs only.

I will probably be getting on e of the smaller WAV recorder units like a R-01, R09 or the MT.

Anyone have any ideas about this???
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Re: Does a SPDIF Coax > 1/8" Stero Mini Cable Exist???
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2006, 01:00:35 PM »
We're confusing some terms here.  The Denecke AD-20 outputs a S/PDIF (digital) signal through a coax cable (and also optical, but that's not part of this discussion).  Line-in, by definition, is an analog signal.  To clarify:  you should be able to send the AD-20s digital output (S/PDIF over coax cable) to any device that accepts a S/PDIF input via coax - using whatever connector is appropriate for the recorder, i.e. RCA, mini, XLR, proprietary 7-pin, etc.  If the recorder does not accept S/PDIF inputs via coax, i.e. if it only supports analog inputs, then no - this is not possible.

The M1 supports this connection with its proprietary 7-pin cable.  Is that how you've connected your AD-20 and M1 in the past, with a 7-pin cable on the bottom of the unit?  (as opposed to the stereo mini line-in on the top of the unit)
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Re: Does a SPDIF Coax > 1/8" Stero Mini Cable Exist???
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2006, 01:02:57 PM »
Yeah...through an Oade 7-Pin. 

I didn't think this was possible, I just wanted to make sure though.

So I gues the AD-20 will be obsolete when I upgrade right?

Do you know of any small portable WAV recorders that accept SPDIF coax or Optical?
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Re: Does a SPDIF Coax > 1/8" Stero Mini Cable Exist???
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2006, 01:09:01 PM »
Do you know of any small portable WAV recorders that accept SPDIF coax or Optical?

M-Audio Microtrack 2496.  Some of the higher-end MDs might, I don't know.
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Re: Does a SPDIF Coax > 1/8" Stero Mini Cable Exist???
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2006, 01:13:02 PM »
I thought that MT might have that.

Aren't people having a lot of issues with the firmeware on the MT though?  I haven't heard a lot of good things about the MT as of yet.  I heard the levels were very hard to accurately set too.

plus, i'm not too keen on the charging from the computer...i like to R-09 since you can use AAs.  Nice and simple...too bad they didn't include a SPDIF in on the R-09.
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Re: Does a SPDIF Coax > 1/8" Stero Mini Cable Exist???
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2006, 02:20:58 PM »
I thought that MT might have that.

Aren't people having a lot of issues with the firmeware on the MT though?  I haven't heard a lot of good things about the MT as of yet.  I heard the levels were very hard to accurately set too.

plus, i'm not too keen on the charging from the computer...i like to R-09 since you can use AAs.  Nice and simple...too bad they didn't include a SPDIF in on the R-09.

The MT charges from the wall too. Like an iPod, it comes with a wall plug that accepts its USB cable. Also, I think that while you have heard a lot of info about the MT, most people actually have had a lot of success with it. I have used it for around 25 shows now, and I have retired my JB3 as a result. The latest firmware is stable, and you have seen the problem threads all but disappear.
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Re: Does a SPDIF Coax > 1/8" Stero Mini Cable Exist???
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2006, 03:20:09 PM »
yes, old casio portable dats(cant remeber the model) has a single 1/8 digi coax jack. my buddy had a hard time finding a cable, I gave him a cable that was intended for video, so it was yellow and had only one band on the 1/8 connector, it came with an old olympus digi camera, it worked!  so try looking for a video related cable if you cant find what your looking for
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Re: Does a SPDIF Coax > 1/8" Stero Mini Cable Exist???
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2006, 04:44:52 PM »
I think the core sound card can take either optical or 1/8 inch digital if you wanted to record to a pda. I know core sound sells an 1/8>1/8 digital cable.
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Re: Does a SPDIF Coax > 1/8" Stero Mini Cable Exist???
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2006, 05:19:26 PM »
I think one of the iRiver's supports 16-bit optical input using Rockbox, but don't know for certain if it's available just yet or if they've worked the bugs out.
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Re: Does a SPDIF Coax > 1/8" Stero Mini Cable Exist???
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2006, 08:51:17 PM »
Do you know of any small portable WAV recorders that accept SPDIF coax or Optical?

M-Audio Microtrack 2496.  Some of the higher-end MDs might, I don't know.

All MDs have an optical in...at least all the ones Ive seen.  The new HIMDs are not restricted by any SCMS so you can make digital copies of digital copies.
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