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BluRay sharing/Trading
« on: January 10, 2010, 11:48:26 AM »
So I just finished mastering my first BluRay video.  2 sets of YMSB from Liberty Hall in Lawrence, KS.  Fully rendered with chapters and the HD video it works out to be about 17GB.  It leads to the question of how do I share it?  So far I've stuck with snail mail to friends.  But I'd like to make it more widely available, Torrent seems a bit slow and I can't monopolize my bandwidth for weeks on end, particularly for the few people that have BluRay burners.  Is it back to B&P for the HD content?
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Re: BluRay sharing/Trading
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2010, 01:39:36 PM »
Man it sure sounds like it.  People can re-experience that warm fuzzy feeling of getting a B&P.  It's not so bad.. :-\
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Re: BluRay sharing/Trading
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2010, 02:37:16 PM »
With portable Hard Drive prices getting lower all the time, I know folks that fill up whole drives for folks with HD content.  Get a cheap, used laptop drive and drop it in a cheap enclosure a viola.
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Re: BluRay sharing/Trading
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2010, 07:15:53 PM »
With portable Hard Drive prices getting lower all the time, I know folks that fill up whole drives for folks with HD content.  Get a cheap, used laptop drive and drop it in a cheap enclosure a viola.

Thats what I do. You can get a 320G for 69.00 or less. I have one that I pass around to friends.
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Re: BluRay sharing/Trading
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2010, 07:28:56 PM »
I'm more interested in how do manage the trading.  I guess I could B&P the hard drives, but that seems like a bit of a leap, $4 for discs and postage is different that $75 bucks worth of hard drive to throw in the mail.  I already have a BluRay burner and the discs are down to less that $2.50 so the cost of media is not that bad. 
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Re: BluRay sharing/Trading
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2010, 10:49:17 PM »
i would be interested in getting a copy on disc
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Re: BluRay sharing/Trading
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2010, 12:27:50 PM »
Quote" discs are down to less that $2.50 so the cost of media is not that bad.  "

Where are you finding them for that price?Link please.

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Elwood: I traded it.
Jake: You traded the Blues Mobile for this?
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Jake: A microphone? Okay I can see that.

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Re: BluRay sharing/Trading
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2010, 12:09:29 PM »
I bought 15 - 25gb Phillips BD-R discs for $40.00 at Fryes Electronics
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Re: BluRay sharing/Trading
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2010, 04:24:53 PM »
didn't realize BD-r media had dropped in price.  @ $0.08 perGB puts it really close to the 0.07 or 0.06 perGB of single layer DVD+R media.  DVD DL is still @ $0.14 per GB. 

This does not factor in the cost of the burner BD-R @ ~$200 vs the DVD burner @ $30-40
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Re: BluRay sharing/Trading
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2010, 06:20:45 PM »
So far I've stuck with snail mail to friends.  But I'd like to make it more widely available, Torrent seems a bit slow and I can't monopolize my bandwidth for weeks on end, particularly for the few people that have BluRay burners.

We can start several seeds at once if you want...see if it takes on a life of it's own.  Say the word, and my bandwidth will go towards it...

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Re: BluRay sharing/Trading
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2010, 12:25:55 AM »
what Blu Ray burner do you have? 
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Re: BluRay sharing/Trading
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2010, 09:14:05 AM »
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136175

This is the one I picked up, but Newegg has been out of stock for a while at that price.
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Re: BluRay sharing/Trading
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2010, 09:36:37 AM »
So far I've stuck with snail mail to friends.  But I'd like to make it more widely available, Torrent seems a bit slow and I can't monopolize my bandwidth for weeks on end, particularly for the few people that have BluRay burners.

We can start several seeds at once if you want...see if it takes on a life of it's own.  Say the word, and my bandwidth will go towards it...

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The problem is the main big ones (Tradersden, Dime) don't allow yonder so it will get pulled down. I'm glad to help out with B&P's.

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Re: BluRay sharing/Trading
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2010, 10:02:17 AM »
just got this
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have not tried to watch it yet, been reallll busy
don't have a burner - if anyone knows a good one for mac lmk
but i can help seed somewhere if that happens (as long as my friend lets me rip it on his reader)
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Re: BluRay sharing/Trading
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2010, 05:13:01 PM »
phanophis: what are you using to make the dvd menus?

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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2010, 11:52:58 PM »
I used DVD Architect which is part of Vegas Pro....

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Re: BluRay sharing/Trading
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2010, 02:10:02 AM »
for all you guys authoring in blue ray.  what are you guys using for video/audio codecs.  maybe a workflow or something would be cool.  bit rates and settings would be awesome. 

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Re: BluRay sharing/Trading
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2010, 11:18:45 AM »
I'm interested as well.
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Re: BluRay sharing/Trading
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2010, 12:20:40 PM »
for all you guys authoring in blue ray.  what are you guys using for video/audio codecs.  maybe a workflow or something would be cool.  bit rates and settings would be awesome.

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« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2010, 04:43:24 PM »
I edit than render pcm audio(sony wave 64) than render the video as sony avc 16mbps.im using sony vegas pro 9.for bluray you can use mpeg 4,avchd,or .m2t .my tests have shown avc to give best results .

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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2010, 12:32:42 PM »
hey first post! i've been using vegas9/architect5

i've found that if you render HD mpeg2 with the HDV 1080X60i template that's at a constant bitrate of 25MBPS you do not get a recompression of the original video.... however, when i author the bluray on architect any which way i go with; bluray stream at 25mbps variable bit rate or with the HDV 25mpbs CBR template, it recompresses the video and takes my computer 6-7 hours to render the video. has anyone found a template in which you do not have to recompress the video in architect or is there just no way around this????

here's a quote from architect help on video compression:
You can burn Blu-ray Disc projects to BD recordable discs using the BDMV format:

A 25 GB single-layer BD recordable disc can store approximately 3 hours, 42 minutes of AVC video (15 Mbps) or 2 hours, 15 minutes of MPEG-2 video (25 Mbps).

A 50 GB dual-layer BD recordable disc can store approximately 7 hours, 25 minutes of AVC video (15 Mbps) or 4 hours, 31 minutes of MPEG-2 video (25 Mbps).
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« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2010, 08:44:37 PM »
When i use sony avc  dvd architect 5 does not recompress.for your mpeg 2 recompression if you make any changes at all to the preset like using constant bit rate recompression will be required.thats why i use avc plus it looks better.if your going to stick with mpeg 2 id skip the vegas render and let architect compress it.

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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2010, 09:16:49 PM »
beatkilla; ok ill check out the avc setting when I get around to my computer. the hdv setting makes a m2t container. But what evidence can u point out that makes you say that avc setting looks better? also, what camera are u using? canon hv30 here. minidvs.... the input bitrate is 25mbps, im curios to understand why you are choosing 16mbps?

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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2010, 10:55:27 PM »
16 seems to be the limit for avc.im using sony fx 1000 and canon hv30 both are hdv mini dv.after capture of m2t.s .i transcode to cineform for color correcting purposes and than i render to sony avc .

 

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