Topic: new Mytek Stereo 192 DAC

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http://www.macmusic.org/news/view.php/lang/en/id/8551/
http://aes.harmony-central.com/127AES/article/Mytek+Digital/Mytek-Digital-Announces-New-High-End-USB-FireWire-DAC
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/new-product-alert/429949-mytek-digital-announces-new-hi-end-usb-firewire-dac.html


MYTEK DIGITAL ANNOUNCES NEW HI-END USB/FIREWIRE DAC

Mytek Digital of New York City, manufacturer of high end mastering audio converters announced at AES Convention in New York, in October 2009, a brand new Stereo 192 DAC, top performance 192k PCM and DSD Digital to Analog Converter. The new DAC features USB and Firewire, as well as standard AES, SPDIF and Toslink inputs, capable of handling stereo PCM playback of up to 24 bit 192k as well as playback of DSD files with absolute state of the art accuracy and transparency.

Numerous features include: high end headphone amplifier, precision volume control with memory (separate for phones and main output), selectable upsampling to 192k and optional remote control.

The DAC will be available in Q1 2010, in both industrial and hi-fi 1/3 rack highly portable enclosure, at Mytek dealers worldwide. It's priced at $1595 for industrial version and $1695 for black or silver Hi-Fi version with RCA outputs.

[Gutbucket]

[drool]

Though I'd really like a 5 or 6 channel version of this USB DAC.

[StuStu]

Very nice!

[it-goes-to-eleven]

Nice.   And, wow - they've gone to a more neutral grey shade instead of the goofy blue (what were they thinking?).

[OFOTD]

Really nice looking unit.  I wonder what street price will be once they get into distribution channels.   Guess a call to Atlas is in order.

btw... I like the blue faceplate on my Stereo96 DAC

[bgalizio]

Interesting that it does DSD... How do you send a digital DSD signal to this DAC?

[BC]

Interesting that it does DSD... How do you send a digital DSD signal to this DAC?

I was wondering the same thing.

[Tim]

Interesting that it does DSD... How do you send a digital DSD signal to this DAC?

I was wondering the same thing.

I'll third that.

Cool looking unit, thanks for sharing Scott

[audBall]

Can DSD be transferred via USB/Firewire?

It appears the black/grey version has RCA outs, no XLR?  Does 'industrial' mean the original blue color?

And, wow - they've gone to a more neutral grey shade instead of the goofy blue (what were they thinking?).

Hey, my DAC resembles that remark!  I thought it matched the V3. 

[Gutbucket]

In the thread about this over at GS, the Mytek representative mentioned that the DSD support is designed for computer playback over USB or Firewire.

[it-goes-to-eleven]

And, wow - they've gone to a more neutral grey shade instead of the goofy blue (what were they thinking?).

Hey, my DAC resembles that remark!  I thought it matched the V3. 

Oh.. Umm.. Did I say that out loud? 

[Chilly Brioschi]

What no DXD support?        


Very nice!

(((deep envy)))

Enjoy it!

[Chilly Brioschi]

[drool]

Though I'd really like a 5 or 6 channel version of this USB DAC.

I'm not sure that USB could do six channels of 24/192 reliably.
I'd love to get my hands on a Digital Audio Denmark's Axion

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new image:

[Jimna]

looks sexy.

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Ok, I'll bite; why the WC connectors?

[Chilly Brioschi]

Ok, I'll bite; why the WC connectors?

For signal input and output?

I want one.
Does anyone use DSD anymore?
Seems like a "low growth enterprise"

[it-goes-to-eleven]

Does anyone use DSD anymore?
Seems like a "low growth enterprise"

What?  Cities will be designed around DSD!!   Oh wait - that was the segway.

What's that thing sell for?

[Gutbucket]

Less than the$e:


Witness the apparently inescapable direct corelation between the advancement of personal transportation technology and absolute dweebdom

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Ok, I'll bite; why the WC connectors?

For signal input and output?

well no shit, but the real question is what functional reason is there to word clock slave against an external device in this instance? Same as far as slaving something else to this (what circumstances would you reasonably do that).

[Jimna]

Im sure in a studio this might be the norm.

[it-goes-to-eleven]

well no shit, but the real question is what functional reason is there to word clock slave against an external device in this instance? Same as far as slaving something else to this (what circumstances would you reasonably do that).

You have multiple tracks; some pcm, some dsd.  You'd want them all to be in sync?

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well no shit, but the real question is what functional reason is there to word clock slave against an external device in this instance? Same as far as slaving something else to this (what circumstances would you reasonably do that).

You have multiple tracks; some pcm, some dsd.  You'd want them all to be in sync?

So your left would be dsd and right be pcm? (as far as I can tell, these are 2 channel units). Your WC in is going to hit both channels, so one will always be resampled in that case (or mistimed, whatever happens when this stuff goes wrong).

[Gutbucket]

Two WC sync scenarios come to mind:

1) Sychcronizing multiple DACs for simultaneous output of multiple channels (more than 2).
2) Possibly for studio or mastering type applications where a digital signal is being routed through the DAC to feed analog gear, then redigitized for further editing/processing. I imagine there might be a reason to clock sync the converters.. perhaps to calculate & compensate for the processing delay imposed when dealing with parallel processing?

[H₂O]

Ok, I'll bite; why the WC connectors?

For one - the SDIF connectors used for DSD requires external clock.  Each channel and clock are on there own seperate connector.


i.e. for 2 channels SDIF you need 3 connectors (1 clock, 1 channel 1, 1 channel 2), for 8 channels you need 9 connectors - if you are running multiple 2 channel dac's to decode 8 channel SDIF each dac would need to be using the same clock (possibly why there is a daisy chain capability).


This is the way SDIF has always been - go look at a PCM-2500b - using SDIF - there is clock, SDIF channel 1, SDIF channel 2
 - Note that this is for SDIF (Sony Digital Interconnect Format) and not S/PDIF  (Sony/Philips Digital Interconnect Format)


Update:
SDIF2 requires a 44.1kHz sync signal to be passed to the DAC and this should preferably come from the 1073DPD sync output via a third BNC cable. SDIF3 transmits the DSD signals with clock information included and should not need the sync signal.

Per:
http://www.ams-neve.com/Sites/8/Files/Documents/Outboard/1073DPA_DPD_User_Manual.pdf

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Ok, I'll bite; why the WC connectors?

For one - the SDIF connectors used for DSD requires external clock.  Each channel and clock are on there own seperate connector.

I did not know that. Interesting.

Two WC sync scenarios come to mind:

1) Sychcronizing multiple DACs for simultaneous output of multiple channels (more than 2).
2) Possibly for studio or mastering type applications where a digital signal is being routed through the DAC to feed analog gear, then redigitized for further editing/processing. I imagine there might be a reason to clock sync the converters.. perhaps to calculate & compensate for the processing delay imposed when dealing with parallel processing?

I hadn't thought about multiple channels. I guess I'd assumed (which is dangerous in it's own right) that studios would use multi-channel equipment instead of the daisy chain method, but I can see some advantages to that. Right tool for the right job I guess, especially in conjunction with the DSD info.

Thank you both, learn something new every day.