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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #165 on: July 12, 2016, 04:53:44 AM »
Sorry, guys, but I have the same right to post my opinions as every other member of the board.  If you don't like it, you have a variety of options at your disposal.  You could, as you see fit, ignore the threads and/or posts, implement the "ignore user" function, or report my "trolling" to the mods (although that last may be a tough sell)...

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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #166 on: July 12, 2016, 02:10:42 PM »
Sorry, guys, but I have the same right to post my opinions as every other member of the board.  If you don't like it, you have a variety of options at your disposal.  You could, as you see fit, ignore the threads and/or posts, implement the "ignore user" function, or report my "trolling" to the mods (although that last may be a tough sell)...

Well at least you somewhat agree that your Trolling this thread
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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #167 on: July 12, 2016, 02:26:28 PM »
^ Not in the slightest. I am just saying that you are certainly not compelled to read my posts, much less respond to them in such an unpleasant manner...

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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #168 on: July 12, 2016, 05:44:02 PM »
IMO and others here you are definitely trolling up this thread - with your rig in your signature you have absolutely no interest in buying a recorder at this level - you are simply bumping this thread only for your own egotistical purposes and to enjoy flaming a dead argument

Devils advocates like you are the bane to sites like this and make it a very unpleasant experience - only jump in to stir up a pot of shit and see how big it blows up.

You and the other trolls on this thread and a few others here will never get any favors or respect from me  - but I know you don't give a shit
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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #169 on: July 12, 2016, 06:58:56 PM »
IMO and others here you are definitely trolling up this thread - with your rig in your signature you have absolutely no interest in buying a recorder at this level - you are simply bumping this thread only for your own egotistical purposes and to enjoy flaming a dead argument

Devils advocates like you are the bane to sites like this and make it a very unpleasant experience - only jump in to stir up a pot of shit and see how big it blows up.

You and the other trolls on this thread and a few others here will never get any favors or respect from me  - but I know you don't give a shit

Hang on a sec.  I agree that the comments from a couple people here are definitely beating a dead horse and I've said so (asked and answered, etc.).  But I have a big problem with the bold part of your quote above. 

Look at the gear list in my signature.  Are you saying that I have no business commenting in this thread, and by extension, I am trolling this thread also?  IMO, trolling is down to how someone behaves, not what they can/cannot afford.
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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #170 on: July 12, 2016, 09:16:25 PM »
He only has one set of stealth mics and lives in Europe where open taping is very limited - the 4minx is not a practical stealth deck
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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #171 on: July 12, 2016, 10:05:14 PM »
Responding via PM as we're now well off topic.  Speaking of...

Can anyone with direct experience comment on the performance of the 4MINX preamps compared to Nagra, Sound Devices, etc?  I'm curious if they have a "sound" or are more or less neutral.
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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #172 on: July 13, 2016, 05:27:48 AM »
He only has one set of stealth mics

That is not at all correct (as is easily verifiable)...

and lives in Europe where open taping is very limited

and that is only partially correct.  It requires some effort, but I have open taped a lot of shows at this point, including in most of the well-known venues in the country.

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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #173 on: July 14, 2016, 08:03:40 AM »
Can anyone with direct experience comment on the performance of the 4MINX preamps compared to Nagra, Sound Devices, etc?  I'm curious if they have a "sound" or are more or less neutral.

They are pretty neutral and very high quality.

The comment I got back from a professional BBC sound recordist was "Sonosax quality".

In the UK you can certainly borrow a unit to try out, I am sure in France and Germany as well - not sure about the USA.

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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #174 on: August 05, 2016, 06:36:51 PM »
Responding via PM as we're now well off topic.  Speaking of...

Can anyone with direct experience comment on the performance of the 4MINX preamps compared to Nagra, Sound Devices, etc?  I'm curious if they have a "sound" or are more or less neutral.

I have a full 4Minx (8 tracks, time code and SPS200), and recently I had a Nagra VI a couple of weeks for do a test before buy it, sincerely I prefer the Aeta preamps and OS. IMHO sounds richer and fuller than the Nagra.

My "against" are:

-The preamp only have 5 steps the rest of the gain are in the digital domain.
-Only have a -20dB PAD on inputs 1 and 2, this is very ridiculous in a machine that was designed for work with ambisonic mics (4 channels).
-The OS have nice and clear options but are slow and unprecise.
-No Ambisonic decoder for playback files.
-The mirror have a "nonsense" and fragile micro usb connector (The keyboard have a A USB connector) and are very very slow (The slowest mirror I could see on the market).
-The metadata work is a nightmare (Inadecuate for fiction).

My "Pros" are:

-The best preamps in a mobile machine that I tried (This includes Sound Devices, Nagra, Zaxcom....), on par with the best 19" rack units.
-Nice and clear OS (Except the metadata nigthmare).
-Low weight.
-NPF batteries and Hirose.
-Easy monitoring options and good amp.
-10V output for supply other devices.
-4 preamps, two line inputs and 4 AES inputs. 6 AES outs, 4 Analog outs in XLR5, two analog outs (Multipin) (All independent), the preamps have direct outs (Pre AD).
-Works with a regular midi fader controller
-Have USB for keyboard.
-Very nice track options (8 tracks but each can be multichanel, mono or stereo)
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Re: aeta 8 track recorder
« Reply #175 on: August 06, 2016, 09:54:25 AM »
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I think that there is a firmware update in the pipeline.  Have you contacted AETA with any of your concerns?

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Re: aeta 8 track recorder
« Reply #176 on: August 06, 2016, 12:10:21 PM »
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I think that there is a firmware update in the pipeline. 

Yes, I do know there is an update being prepared.

I don't know what's in it and I have asked them to implement a full setup save to USB or SD so once you have a setup you like tyou can save it and reload whenever you want.  Part of this can be done in the "snapshot", though.

Not sure when the update is due, though, but I do understand it should be available later this year.


Have you contacted AETA with any of your concerns?

I would *alwaays* address concerns to the manufacturere (or via the distributor in your country) so they know what concerns are and can, hopefully, work on a correction.

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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #177 on: August 23, 2016, 10:28:59 AM »
Nice review of the 4Minx...photos of all sides, battery slot and EXTENSIVE menus. Excellent description of setup when using the Soundfield SPS200 microphone.

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Re: aeta 8 track recorder
« Reply #178 on: August 23, 2016, 02:18:59 PM »
Nice review of the 4Minx...photos of all sides, battery slot and EXTENSIVE menus. Excellent description of setup when using the Soundfield SPS200 microphone.

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Thanks for the link!
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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #179 on: August 25, 2016, 12:44:06 PM »
Nice review of the 4Minx...photos of all sides, battery slot and EXTENSIVE menus. Excellent description of setup when using the Soundfield SPS200 microphone.

LINK

This was a good in-depth review, but based on a very early machine.

There have been quite a few firmware updates since this review.

Oh - the point about shielding - there are metal sheets under the polymer top and bottom to give excellent shielding, while keeping the weight light.

There is also another review, done in December 2013, by Alistair McGhee - the PDF of this review is HERE.

 

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