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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #195 on: August 26, 2017, 08:59:43 AM »
I purchased the combo MixPre6 + BP4025. But perhaps I did my first BIG mistake: BP4025 ends with 2x XLR (obviously, since it's stereo), so I connected both XLRs to channels 1-2 of the MixPre6, and then I gave phantom power to BOTH the channels... After one hour long test, I discovered that giving phantom power to a single channel (left) was enough to power both the channels of the stereo mic (and it's logical: the channels are 2, but the mic is one, so it needs only one phantom!)
Now, I'm afraid of having damaged the mic. My question is: do you think I could have damaged the mic having given DUAL phantom power for such a long time?
Thanks for your help.

I used my BP4025 a fair amount this summer with the MixPre3. All the time I assigned phantom power to both channels. The mic hasn't been damaged yet! However, I had no idea that assigning phantom to one channel only would work. I'll have to check that out myself as I'm typically using 4 AA batteries for "walk around" recordings. Using one channel would certainly provide me with more recording time.

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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #196 on: August 26, 2017, 09:17:24 AM »
Mitchell, could expand quickly on how the internal Sony d100 mics compare to your AT BP4025 in terms of stereo separation, clarity and wind susceptibility?

I'm thinking of getting an external stereo mic to run through my MixPre3 to use while traveling, replacing my d100 for that use. The 4025 is one mic I've been looking at.

Thanks!

I'm traveling right now so I'm answering based on memory. The BP4025s are less "wind susceptible" than the D100s. However, even with the BP4025 I use a very nice furry windscreen (the WindTech MM-26 Mic Muff) that works fantastically well even in pretty darn windy conditions. You still get the sound of the wind, but not wind plosives. You might want to also consider the Audio-Technica AT8022. It's a bit cheaper and also a very good mic. It also depends on what you're recording. I record enough live music, music played in marches, and ambient sounds where I need to hold the mic (or place it very carefully). I wouldn't want to do there same with the recorder itself: too easy to drop, etc. 

I love the BP4025 with MixPre-3 combo. Works great for me. If I remember correctly the BP4025 comes with a very long cable. So you may want to purchase a shorter cable for traveling reasons. (I already had a shorter cable available.)

I've used the D100 attached to a pistol grip. Very solid in the hand, little chance of dropping it, and no handling noise. You can point it like a mic.  Plus no dangling wire from mic to recorder. The Sony supplied windscreen does a great job. This has been my best solution for a very high quality, very portable recording machine.
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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #197 on: August 26, 2017, 09:21:18 AM »


I've used the D100 attached to a pistol grip. Very solid in the hand, little chance of dropping it, and no handling noise. You can point it like a mic.  Plus no dangling wire from mic to recorder. The Sony supplied windscreen does a great job. This has been my best solution for a very high quality portable recording machine.

Yes, I can see that working well. Do you have a particular pistol grip you suggest?

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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #198 on: August 26, 2017, 09:29:18 AM »


I've used the D100 attached to a pistol grip. Very solid in the hand, little chance of dropping it, and no handling noise. You can point it like a mic.  Plus no dangling wire from mic to recorder. The Sony supplied windscreen does a great job. This has been my best solution for a very high quality portable recording machine.

Yes, I can see that working well. Do you have a particular pistol grip you suggest?

I use this one: [No affiliation to seller]

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Wide-Platform-Pistol-Grip-Camera-Handle-1-4-Screw-for-SLR-DSLR-Sony-Tripod-T7Y8-/252554394928?hash=item3acd6a3d30:g:0iAAAOSwPhdVRX~-

It has been -- so far -- very solid and comfortable, and it's cheap!

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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #199 on: August 26, 2017, 09:34:29 AM »

I use this one: [No affiliation to seller]

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Wide-Platform-Pistol-Grip-Camera-Handle-1-4-Screw-for-SLR-DSLR-Sony-Tripod-T7Y8-/252554394928?hash=item3acd6a3d30:g:0iAAAOSwPhdVRX~-

It has been -- so far -- very solid and comfortable, and it's cheap!

Thanks! Unfortunately they do not ship to the U.S. But I seem to have found some others at Amazon that are very similar and not much more.

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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #200 on: August 26, 2017, 11:18:40 AM »
I used my BP4025 a fair amount this summer with the MixPre3. All the time I assigned phantom power to both channels. The mic hasn't been damaged yet! However, I had no idea that assigning phantom to one channel only would work. I'll have to check that out myself as I'm typically using 4 AA batteries for "walk around" recordings. Using one channel would certainly provide me with more recording time.
When you'll test the one-phantom solution please give us your impressions.

If I remember correctly the BP4025 comes with a very long cable. So you may want to purchase a shorter cable for traveling reasons. (I already had a shorter cable available.)
The supplied cable is 5m long! So I'd need a shorter cable too (something around 2m). Do you know some good brand for a 2m "5-PIN-to-2x3PINs" cable?
Thanks

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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #201 on: August 26, 2017, 11:34:39 AM »
Will test sometime in the next week.

I don't have a particular cable maker to recommend. I had bought the sister mic AT8022 a number of years ago as it could be powered by battery (which I needed at the time). It came with a much shorter cable which I use with the BP4025. But I think there are a few good options to choose from, especially if you look at BH Photo Video. But these are definitely trickier to find and many of the options seem to be quite long.

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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #202 on: August 31, 2017, 12:55:02 PM »
^^ Try tgakidis or darktrain, both users on this site, for custom cables.  I have purchased a bunch from Ted (tgakidis) and they are all fantastic.  I don't have any from darktrain, but I know there are a lot of satisfied customers here.

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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #203 on: August 31, 2017, 02:37:16 PM »
Thanks a lot for this info!

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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #204 on: September 01, 2017, 01:15:11 PM »

When you'll test the one-phantom solution please give us your impressions.


I just had time today to check running the BP4025 with MixPre-3. I tried 1 channel phantom, then 2 channels phantom, then back to 1 channel. Good news: the mic did not break! Sound quality sounds no different. In theory this should allow one to have a much longer battery life but I don't know if it will play out that way. I certainly do not have time to test battery length. With 2 phantoms I could run for 2.5 hours. I'm not expecting 5 hours, but perhaps 3.5 or 4. But someone else will have to do a test to check for sure.

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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #205 on: September 01, 2017, 02:27:41 PM »
Thank you so much mitchelim. I think I'll do also a specrum test to see if there is a minimal difference between 1 vs 2 phantoms.
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