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bnc connectors for VMS
« on: August 17, 2015, 08:42:12 PM »
afternoon

does anyone know where i can get BNC connectors like the ones in this picture, I'm making up cables for VMS.  I think rob, dark train made these.

thanks

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Re: bnc connectors for VMS
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2015, 09:55:52 PM »
afternoon

does anyone know where i can get BNC connectors like the ones in this picture, I'm making up cables for VMS.  I think rob, dark train made these.

thanks

dan

Or you could just ask ;D , those are nice solid solder bnc's and you can get em at Redco

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Re: bnc connectors for VMS
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2015, 10:18:28 PM »
Haha, I could of.  But I  wasn't able to figure out how to attach a picture to a pm, haha
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Re: bnc connectors for VMS
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2016, 03:39:40 AM »
I think I want some BNC>XLR cables exactly like this for my VMS>70d setup!
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Re: bnc connectors for VMS
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2016, 09:12:41 AM »
I just had Ted whip me up right angle bnc > chopped right angle 1/4 trs for my vms > zoom f8


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Re: bnc connectors for VMS
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2016, 11:14:51 AM »
I just had Ted whip me up right angle bnc > chopped right angle 1/4 trs for my vms > zoom f8



Very nice Dustin 8)

Any reason for going with 1/4" TRS plugs instead of locking XLR's? I have right-angle stubby XLR's for my 70D and they are super low-profile AND lock into place! That VMS looks quite familiar lol 8) ;D +T

I'm going to get Robb aka DarkTrain to make me some straight BNC>Right-Angle Stubby XLR's for my VMS>70d setup, so thanks for the ideas everyone :) 8) I already have Gold Radio Shack BNC>RCA adapters, and then Straight & Rt-Angle RCA>Rt-Angle Stubby XLR's, but Id prefer the locking connectors of the BNC>XLR, so both ends are locked into place!
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Re: bnc connectors for VMS
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2016, 11:23:28 AM »
The F8 is line in on 1/4", mic in on xlr.

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Re: bnc connectors for VMS
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2016, 11:49:09 AM »
The F8 is line in on 1/4", mic in on xlr.

Really? Are you 100% positive about that? I could've sworn Tonedeaf used XLR Ins with his VMS/PSP3/etc ???
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Re: bnc connectors for VMS
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2016, 11:51:42 AM »
Yea im sure. Steve is the only one running it like that i think.

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Re: bnc connectors for VMS
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2016, 12:32:39 PM »
Yea im sure. Steve is the only one running it like that i think.

So Steve is definitely running Preamp>XLR>F8 ??? I thought that's what Ive been seeing 8)

I'm going to look through the manual real quick, but I believe you Dustin ;) Just odd that Zoom would do that?

EDIT: Yea, just saw the manual. I knew you were right Dustin, however, I wanted to see if they explained why? Doesn't seem to mention why after looking through! All I can say is that's strange that the line inputs are supposed to be on 1/4" inputs only ??? Wonder what is wrong with using the XLR's? 1/4" just have a higher input? Probably easier to clip the XLR inputs since their meant for a mic signal and not a line signal!
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Re: bnc connectors for VMS
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2016, 12:45:29 PM »
I wish i was knowledgeable enough about the f8 to answer those ?'s

I was skeptical about using 1/4" inputs. I like to run different outboard pres. But the chopped right angle 1/4" cables Ted made me cured that. Rock solid in my bag!

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Re: bnc connectors for VMS
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2016, 01:48:58 PM »
I wish i was knowledgeable enough about the f8 to answer those ?'s

I was skeptical about using 1/4" inputs. I like to run different outboard pres. But the chopped right angle 1/4" cables Ted made me cured that. Rock solid in my bag!

I wouldn't have a problem running the 1/4" plugs either. It is what it is! Just wondered if they mentioned why? But the line in is probably close to 50db hotter than the mic IN, at least that's how Sonosax setup their MIC/LINE inputs! Something like a 50db hotter/lower signal! If you have a SUPER hot preamp, it might brickwall the F8 XLR inputs? But the VMS is the hottest preamp Ive run, so if Steve is running VMS/PSP3/etc>XLR>F8, the XLR input can handle a pretty hot signal and you should have a hard time clipping it like that, if its even possible?

Thanks for the heads up though, Dustin! I had never known that about the F8 until reading your post this morning!
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Re: bnc connectors for VMS
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2016, 04:11:49 PM »
I wish i was knowledgeable enough about the f8 to answer those ?'s

I was skeptical about using 1/4" inputs. I like to run different outboard pres. But the chopped right angle 1/4" cables Ted made me cured that. Rock solid in my bag!

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Re: bnc connectors for VMS
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2016, 06:48:23 PM »
^Off topic: 
Sound Devices USBpre2 is the same.   
XLR = MIC
1/4" = LINE
RCA = LINE
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Re: bnc connectors for VMS
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2016, 10:04:14 PM »
Same goes for the Korg MR-1000

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Re: bnc connectors for VMS
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2016, 01:29:48 AM »
Wowza, I never knew that about those preamps/decks! Learn something new everyday :)
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Schoeps | NBob 250/05 KCY's ->
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Re: bnc connectors for VMS
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2016, 04:19:57 PM »
BNC connectors are highly shielded, bayonet connectors with constant 50 or 75 ohm impedance for high frequency RF use.
We used to call them "British Naval Connectors", but that is not actually true, the design name is actually "Bayonet Neill–Concelman".

So, radio shops have them.  Commercial, Ham, etc.
The security industry took a liking to them for video, and CCTV vendors also have them.
Old computer dudes will remember them as early Ethernet Base2 connectors.

They are very easy to find new or surplus, and the Mil-Spec surplus variety are excellent.

Keep to 75 or 50 ohm and don't mix them, although they can be mated, you'll get the best fit with the match.

Be sure the cable-end diameter makes sense, as that is the biggest variation in design.

Great, durable connector, much better than phone plugs or phono plugs...
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Re: bnc connectors for VMS
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2016, 09:29:59 PM »
I need a pair of nice BNC>Right Angle Stubby XLR's for my VMS>70d! Right now I have Gold Rat Shack BNC>RCA adapters, with Rat Shack RCA Splitters, RCA>XLR's>70d and the other output from my splitter went to my VMS>M10 backup setup, which I dont have now! So I want to slim down the cabling on the back of my VMS and get some Darktrain Straight BNC>Rt Angle Stubby XLR's, and I would be set!

I also want a pair of Straight XLR's>Rt Angle Stubby XLR's to go from my PFA>70d, so that my PFA's arent so tight in my main bag setup :) And on top of that, I want to redo EVERY 711 Binder plug I have in my gear chains, and switch them to the nicer 712 Binder plugs! :) [7] of them total! But I want to do it with the BADASS, expensive 712 Binder plugs like these, so I NEVER have to replace another 711 Binder plug EVER again ;D I seem to tighten them down too much, and end up ruining them :( But check these badass Binder plugs out! [Sorry slight highjack]

https://www.binder-usa.com/products/partsdetail/89225
https://www.binder-usa.com/products/partsdetail/89229

Or these ones with the Iris Spring! I just need to talk to Nicky about it :)
https://www.binder-usa.com/products/partsdetail/89259
https://www.binder-usa.com/products/partsdetail/89253
« Last Edit: April 12, 2016, 09:32:19 PM by F.O.Bean »
Schoeps MK4's | MK41's ->
Schoeps | NBob 250/05 KCY's ->
Schoeps VMS 02IB | Naiant +60v/Low Noise PFA's ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby | GakCable XLR's ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 | Tascam DR-70D ->
128gb | 64gb SanDisk Extreme Pro SDXC-I

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