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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #120 on: September 29, 2017, 08:45:47 PM »
I've been trying out my new D:Vice and I'm getting lot of crashes with the software and it's disconnected a few times and also when recording the recording app switches back to the iPhone mic (which I assume is a result of the disconnecting issue)

Anyone else having these issues.

I've stupidly updated to iOS 11 so might be related to that

Duncan

No issues for me (iOS 10), the Rode app works perfectly for me.  I am avoiding an upgrade to iOS 11 until I hear that this app or others that promise 24/96 recording actually work with iOS 11.  The Sept 26 update of Audioshare fixes "unresponsive file list after some actions (iOS 11)" and promises future upgrades.  They say iOS 11 broke compatibility with a lot of existing Document Picker Extensions, and "Full iOS files integration will be coming in the near future."  Voice Record Pro 7 just updated today to give "improved compatibility with iOS 11."  So there's hope!


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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #121 on: September 30, 2017, 03:18:21 AM »
No issues for me (iOS 10), the Rode app works perfectly for me.  I am avoiding an upgrade to iOS 11 until I hear that this app or others that promise 24/96 recording actually work with iOS 11.  The Sept 26 update of Audioshare fixes "unresponsive file list after some actions (iOS 11)" and promises future upgrades.  They say iOS 11 broke compatibility with a lot of existing Document Picker Extensions, and "Full iOS files integration will be coming in the near future."  Voice Record Pro 7 just updated today to give "improved compatibility with iOS 11."  So there's hope!

Thanks for the reply
My main concern is with the DPA app as that's the one that crashes and drops the mic connection
Anyway I gave it a run out at a local gig last night and it worked ok using Voice Recorder Pro 7 (Don't think it was the updated version) on iOS 11 which have an update yesterday

I took the trouble of also recording with my normal rig Schoeps CCM5 — SD722

Both recordings @24/48

I'll pull out a track or two today and post them up somewhere
Can anyone recommend a good simple place to post them?

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #122 on: September 30, 2017, 01:08:30 PM »
Except with the Rode app, I don't think you need to have the dpa app running at all once you have set levels.  I have recorded on a pc with Audacity, and even on an Android tablet with USB Audio Recorder Pro at 24/96 and it seems to work fine (though I have not run for longer periods or tried this at a concert). 
You need the dpa app running with the Rode app, since that one seems to want to get into the d:vice and change levels, which it's not supposed to be able to do but will accomplish, alas.

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #123 on: September 30, 2017, 01:17:09 PM »
Except with the Rode app, I don't think you need to have the dpa app running at all once you have set levels.  I have recorded on a pc with Audacity, and even on an Android tablet with USB Audio Recorder Pro at 24/96 and it seems to work fine (though I have not run for longer periods or tried this at a concert). 
You need the dpa app running with the Rode app, since that one seems to want to get into the d:vice and change levels, which it's not supposed to be able to do but will accomplish, alas.

I'll have to do some test but from what I've seen so far the Voice Recorder Pro app reverts to the iPhone mic if the DPA app goes down or disconnects.
It might be a cable/connector issue

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #124 on: October 01, 2017, 08:19:02 AM »
For anyone interested here are a couple of samples from my first try with the DPA D:vice.
I used DPA 4061s (attached to glasses) - D:vice - iPhone (dpa App - Voice Recorder Pro7) peaking at about -6db

I also recorded with by main rig Schoeps CCM5 (set to cardioid) — SD722 also peaking at about -6db with mics stealthed in hat

So both sets of mics were within 2-3" of each other

About 8 feet from stack

Both recording were done @ 24/48 and I've done nothing but normalise

Here's a link to the two files in flac and zipped

https://we.tl/OSnW68z9si


Should give you an idea of what the D:vice can do

Cheers
Duncan

P.S. The artist is a band I'd never heard of called The Little Unsaid.
Well worth checking out
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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #125 on: October 03, 2017, 02:55:37 PM »
While not cheap... A DPA 4061 > d:vice > iPhone sounds like an amazingly small low-profile stealth setup. Lots of plastic, not much to 'detect' :hmmm: Then again it's $1,500 for the mics and device.

Subscribing... Hopefully there's more real world reviews. Maybe this can get me back in the game.
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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #126 on: October 03, 2017, 03:11:23 PM »
Its worth it. Finally i got a stealth rig with high-quality and nearly nothing to 'detect'.
All the Recorders, Preamps and Battery Packs just gone :)

I made this recording this weekend with my android and a Pair of DPA 4018 as another sample. I recorded @ 16/44.1 for my sony won't allow me differently :/
Also i did not use the latest firmware for the device since i don't have an iphone to update it...

http://www.tommcrae.de/ToriAmos.mp3
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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #127 on: October 03, 2017, 04:03:02 PM »
Did you try using a different piece of software?  I got 24/96 with USB Audio Recorder Pro on Samsung Galaxy Tab S3.  The software you mentioned that you were using has a description that says it is limited to 16 bit 44.1 kHz.

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #128 on: October 03, 2017, 05:49:46 PM »
Which sample is which?  I know which one I enjoy more...

For anyone interested here are a couple of samples from my first try with the DPA D:vice.
I used DPA 4061s (attached to glasses) - D:vice - iPhone (dpa App - Voice Recorder Pro7) peaking at about -6db

I also recorded with by main rig Schoeps CCM5 (set to cardioid) — SD722 also peaking at about -6db with mics stealthed in hat

So both sets of mics were within 2-3" of each other

About 8 feet from stack

Both recording were done @ 24/48 and I've done nothing but normalise

Here's a link to the two files in flac and zipped

https://we.tl/OSnW68z9si


Should give you an idea of what the D:vice can do

Cheers
Duncan

P.S. The artist is a band I'd never heard of called The Little Unsaid.
Well worth checking out

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #129 on: October 04, 2017, 07:46:28 AM »
Which sample is which?  I know which one I enjoy more...

What do you think?
Which do you prefer?
Duncan
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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #130 on: October 04, 2017, 12:57:51 PM »
Did you try using a different piece of software?  I got 24/96 with USB Audio Recorder Pro on Samsung Galaxy Tab S3.  The software you mentioned that you were using has a description that says it is limited to 16 bit 44.1 kHz.

Jeff

I use USB Audio Recorder Pro, but it will only let me select 16 bit 44.1 as output. don't know why :/
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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #131 on: October 05, 2017, 02:24:15 AM »
I would guess that sample 1 is the omnis.  It's much more full and rich sounding to my ears.

I was just playing around with my d:vice and 4061s, and am pretty impressed.



Which sample is which?  I know which one I enjoy more...

What do you think?
Which do you prefer?
Duncan

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #132 on: October 05, 2017, 05:33:01 AM »
Yes you're right
I'm both please and dismayed that the much cheaper DPA solution sound quality is even close to the Schoeps - SD722 rig, let alone better  :shrug:

That said the 4061s have alway given me excellent results
I forget how good they are now I use the Schoeps CCM5s all the time

Duncan

I would guess that sample 1 is the omnis.  It's much more full and rich sounding to my ears.

I was just playing around with my d:vice and 4061s, and am pretty impressed.



Which sample is which?  I know which one I enjoy more...

What do you think?
Which do you prefer?
Duncan
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DPA 4061--SD722
AKG CK 61-ULS--Naiant Actives--SD722
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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #133 on: Yesterday at 10:16:21 AM »
Had another go recording with the d:VICE
Didn't work out so well this time.
 I was recording sleepmakeswaves a post rock band from Australia as I wanted to check how it handled rock db goodness

Well on the positive side it handled it with no problem (gain set very low)

Unfortunately there must have been a bit of cable jiggle as the d:VICE disconnected from the iPhone after 35 mins and so the second half of the gig was recorded through the iPhone mic
Actually it doesn't sound dreadful but that's beside the point when using a £500 interface

I'm trying again tomorrow with a bit more cable care and will let you know

Cheers
Duncan
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AKG CK 61-ULS--Naiant Actives--SD722
DPA 4061 - DPA d:VICE - iPhone 6s+

 

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