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Looking for a small stealth deck with left right balance controls for external mics. Sony pcm-10 would have been perfect for naiant ipa but does not have balance control.
Which do you prefer for stealth: dr-40, dr-05, r-05, m audio track or other I'm not considering.
Looking for small size, balance control, decent pres, visable/good screen size, secure inputs.
I will run it with my mbho ka200n > naiant ipa > stealth deck.
Getting ready for McLaughlin and Herring in nov
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Re: ISO Small deck like pcm-10 but with balnce controls
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2017, 02:50:05 AM »
Is the PCM-D100 too big for you? I've managed to stealth with it in my jeans pocket, with the advantage that it provides 5v PIP which has been enough to ditch the battery box or pre-amp.

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Re: ISO Small deck like pcm-10 but with balnce controls
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2017, 03:41:36 AM »
Is the PCM-D100 too big for you? I've managed to stealth with it in my jeans pocket, with the advantage that it provides 5v PIP which has been enough to ditch the battery box or pre-amp.
Pcm-d100 runs around $800. I am looking to spend <$400 since I rarely stealth.
I occasionally used my ocm pmd661 as an all in one box but wanding is so prevalent now days I need something smaller for low pro stealth.

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Looking for a small stealth deck with left right balance controls for external mics. Sony pcm-10 would have been perfect for naiant ipa but does not have balance control.
Which do you prefer for stealth: dr-40, dr-05, r-05, m audio track or other I'm not considering.

I don't think the R-05 has balance control.  I'd love to be wrong about that though.
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Tascam has a toggle for Left/Both/Right channel and then one input level knob. It works great and additionally has XLR-ins which I prefer in all taping situations. But given the choice, I'd rather stealth the mixpre than the tascam due to the superior preamps.

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Re: ISO Small deck like pcm-10 but with balnce controls
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2017, 11:45:59 AM »
Is the PCM-D100 too big for you? I've managed to stealth with it in my jeans pocket, with the advantage that it provides 5v PIP which has been enough to ditch the battery box or pre-amp.

curious..  with what type of mikes?
.....got a blank space where my mind should be.....

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Run the M10 and even out the channels in post
Mics: ADK A51s; AT4041; Superlux S502; CK91 active w/homebrew BB; AT853; Naiant X-X; Nak 300's
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Re: ISO Small deck like pcm-10 but with balnce controls
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2017, 04:09:33 PM »
curious..  with what type of mikes?

For stealth a variety of Church Audio mics, mainly the CAFS, but also AT853. I know Chris Church always maintains his mics require 9v, but I've always had good results using the PIP from the D100 even in loud shows.

I picked up my second unit secondhand for £315 ($400)

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Run the M10 and even out the channels in post

Yeah, any reason you don't want to do that?

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The Marantz PMD 620 has the least amount of metal of any small deck besides the Korg MR-1.
The 620 gets about 4 hours on a good set of batteries, the MR-1 needs you to have an external battery pack (4 AAs or a small phone charging battery.)

The 620 will power sonic studios mics so probably also church mics. That's about as light as I can imagine.
I think punkjazz used to use the Sony M10 to power DPA 4061 mics, which sound better with 48v, but will still work with whatever the M10 was outputting.

I haven't been wanted in years and I haven't had the metal detectors yet.
What will they let you bring in? Batteries? Phone accessories?
this is definitely not normal

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The Marantz PMD 620 has the least amount of metal of any small deck besides the Korg MR-1.
The 620 gets about 4 hours on a good set of batteries, the MR-1 needs you to have an external battery pack (4 AAs or a small phone charging battery.)

The 620 will power sonic studios mics so probably also church mics. That's about as light as I can imagine.
I think punkjazz used to use the Sony M10 to power DPA 4061 mics, which sound better with 48v, but will still work with whatever the M10 was outputting.

I haven't been wanted in years and I haven't had the metal detectors yet.
What will they let you bring in? Batteries? Phone accessories?
They allow cells but just caps, ipa and a small deck has a decent chance with a lazy guard.
Pmd620 looks sweet but no information on left and right balance control online? My pmd661 has a gain knob with adjustable left and right wheel controls. The pmd620 has a single record button but it might have settings to adjust both channels separately but there's nothing online to confirm it. Anyone have experience with one?
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For a small stealth deck nothing beats the Sony PCM-M10(has no independent channel control),M10 battery life is unbeatable.

Only deck i've used that had L/R control was the Sony PCM D100,easily available,pricey,and a little big.

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PMD620 mkII does not have individual channel gain. 
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Look at the specs of the Marantz PMD561 and PMD661 MKIII

are those too big for you?
this is definitely not normal

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The dr-40 can control left/right input individually, lasts a ridiculously long time on aa's and consists mostly of plastic, yet is still real durable.
Mics- akg 460's ck 61's/63's/ck8's, akg active  couplings>naiant pfa's, naiant x-r's (cards,omnis). Pre- SD-302, x-y amp, apogee mini-me X2, Decks- pmd-671, R-44, dr-40,dr-100mkiii,  dr-03.....

 

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