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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 4
« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2017, 12:09:57 PM »
From the release notes, this would appear to allow the much clamored for channel linking (also two channel) with front knob gain control!

yup, I just updated mine, and the channel linking option is no longer greyed out.

It looks like SD is listening.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 4
« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2017, 12:16:08 PM »
Great news here! Thank you Sound Devices for listening. I just updated my unit w/o issue and love that I can finally operate the MP6 like my old 744.  :cheers:

From the release notes, this would appear to allow the much clamored for channel linking (also two channel) with front knob gain control!

yup, I just updated mine, and the channel linking option is no longer greyed out.

It looks like SD is listening.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 4
« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2017, 12:43:54 PM »


This is good news. I really like the idea of a MixPre6 and a Sennheiser AMBEO VR mic as a compact surround rig.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 4
« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2017, 12:47:23 PM »
Does the 7xx series have the option to record to FLAC?
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 4
« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2017, 02:29:00 PM »
^yes the 7xx can record to flac
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 4
« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2017, 03:01:34 PM »
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 4
« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2017, 10:24:29 AM »

Can someone explain why this would be useful for me?  I typically run a cardiod pair and a MS pair.  The two are never close to being the same levels, really ever, especially the mid and side channels.  Why would I want to control gain on 4 mis-matched channels by just spinning a single knob?

I was happy to see that with the firmware update using the front panel knobs for gain, I can link channels 1/2, and then separately link channels 3/4. ISO (front panel) Knob 1 controls 1/2, and ISO (Front panel) knob 3 controls 3/4. That is exactly how I have used my Tascam DR680. I do not foresee ever linking all 4 together, at least not with my mic combos. I did not think to check if there is an option to link 5/6, I'll have to look at that tonight.

There is a specific linking option for m/s, so you could balance your M/S and control that with ISO 1, and then control your cardioid pair after balancing on ISO 3, so you would have 2 master balance controls instead of 4 separate controls.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 4
« Reply #38 on: September 29, 2017, 11:48:03 AM »

Can someone explain why this would be useful for me?  I typically run a cardiod pair and a MS pair.  The two are never close to being the same levels, really ever, especially the mid and side channels.  Why would I want to control gain on 4 mis-matched channels by just spinning a single knob?

I was happy to see that with the firmware update using the front panel knobs for gain, I can link channels 1/2, and then separately link channels 3/4. ISO (front panel) Knob 1 controls 1/2, and ISO (Front panel) knob 3 controls 3/4. That is exactly how I have used my Tascam DR680. I do not foresee ever linking all 4 together, at least not with my mic combos. I did not think to check if there is an option to link 5/6, I'll have to look at that tonight.

There is a specific linking option for m/s, so you could balance your M/S and control that with ISO 1, and then control your cardioid pair after balancing on ISO 3, so you would have 2 master balance controls instead of 4 separate controls.

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Cables: 2x nbob KCY, 1 pair nbob actives, Darktrain 2 and 4 channel KCY extensions:
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 4
« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2017, 02:28:46 PM »
https://www.trewaudio.com/product/cable-techniques-mx-powersled/

Looks just like the Hawk Woods version:
https://www.trewaudio.com/product/hawk-woods-sd-1/

Hawk Woods also makes a single L battery sled:
https://www.trewaudio.com/product/hawk-woods-sd-2/

...Speaking of which, anyone here powering these units with the L style batteries?  I haven't seen much discussion about that option here.  The USB-C packs seem to be the cheaper option if starting fresh, unless you already own the Sony batteries and charger.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 4
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2017, 03:21:44 PM »
Volt, I had a handful of unbranded NP-550 size L batteries from some LED lights gathering dust so I got one of SD's L sleds. With one in each of the sled's sockets it's just a bit thicker than the recorder itself (and roughly the same thickness as the Hawk Woods single L sled). I get plenty of record time out of two batteries for my needs and can easily hot swap in a spare. I prefer the all in one form factor that the L batteries provide and two of the batteries are lighter than my USB battery pack. If an extremely long recording situation comes up I can use my Anker 20100+ (again, already on hand from another task).

If I hadn't had either on hand to begin with I'd lean towards USB powering. On a longer trip I have coming up later in the year, I will likely bring the Anker since I'll be carrying it and its charger anyway (and the one charger also charges my phone and camera batteries). The L batteries mean one more (large-ish) charger to pack.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 4
« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2017, 08:44:49 PM »
Volt, I had a handful of unbranded NP-550 size L batteries from some LED lights gathering dust so I got one of SD's L sleds. With one in each of the sled's sockets it's just a bit thicker than the recorder itself (and roughly the same thickness as the Hawk Woods single L sled). I get plenty of record time out of two batteries for my needs and can easily hot swap in a spare. I prefer the all in one form factor that the L batteries provide and two of the batteries are lighter than my USB battery pack. If an extremely long recording situation comes up I can use my Anker 20100+ (again, already on hand from another task).

If I hadn't had either on hand to begin with I'd lean towards USB powering. On a longer trip I have coming up later in the year, I will likely bring the Anker since I'll be carrying it and its charger anyway (and the one charger also charges my phone and camera batteries). The L batteries mean one more (large-ish) charger to pack.

Thanks for sharing your experience.  I also like the form factor and ability to hot-swap the NP / L batteries, which is why I was interested in them, but the smaller ones that don't stick out that far like the 550s make me wonder about runtimes with 4 mics.

As for chargers, this kit looks attractive since the charger is small and can be powered off of a 12V car outlet:
https://www.amazon.com/DSTE-NP-F550-Sony-CCD-RV100-CCD-RV200/dp/B00CPYXQ2S/
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 4
« Reply #43 on: October 03, 2017, 04:43:46 AM »
MixPre-10T?

If this is what I think it is, THIS is why I didn’t buy a mixpre6!

https://www.sounddevices.com/component/tags/tag/tn-mixpre-10t
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 4
« Reply #44 on: October 03, 2017, 06:30:42 AM »
MixPre-10T?

If this is what I think it is, THIS is why I didn’t buy a mixpre6!

https://www.sounddevices.com/component/tags/tag/tn-mixpre-10t

Looks like they took those links down, but here's someone who grabbed a screenshot:
http://ironfilm.co.nz/leaked-is-a-new-sound-devices-mixpre-10t-coming-soon/
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