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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2007, 03:50:01 PM »
+t for upping examples of "off the radar" mics!


Two of those shows were recorded and upped by dallman, only one is mine. I do have a Yonder Mountain show I'll get up eventually and a WSP show (Dallas 3-24-07) that I'll probably just snail untracked flac copies to anyone interested in comparing it to the three versions already up on bt, two of which were recorded within ten feet of my location.

I considered my purchase of the Berliner CM 33 mics a gamble. Now as it is about 10 months that I have had them, I have tried to be really critical and tried to look to others be really critical. The verdict so far is that they are a great deal, and well worth the money. They are very nice mics with crisp sound and very nice tones.I really am so pleased by my recordings with them. I don't know if the company will get off the ground, and it looks like they are slowly moving forward though. I never use my other mics anymore except for my little ones when I cannot openly record.

Here are the two latest shows I have upped. I have a few on Archive, but I find etree much easier to work with.
Check them out it was a great night. I still have one more band from that night to finish, and I am awaiting the setlist.

New Monsoon:http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=506838

ALO (Animal Liberation Orchestra) with New Monsoon jamming on final song:
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=506840

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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2007, 07:57:20 PM »
Hey, if anyone has these, I'd like to see the insides: the board and a closeup of the capsule, front and back.

According to the specs, they are electret.  I wonder what kind of element is in there.

Also, are they made in Germany or China.  I'm a little suspicious of that, a new "vintage looking" product, coming out of nowhere.

Also, I notice a similarity to Behringer C2, which is made by 797 China.  Now I'm sure they're much better (B2 are something like $70 a pair!) but the construction looks very similar.  Maybe they are a high end version made by 797 as well.  You might tell this by looking for etching on the board inside.

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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2007, 10:27:35 PM »
The best pic of the front of the cap I've found is http://www.berlinerusa.com/images/cm33_cap2.jpg Open it in a photo program and blow it up about 3-400% for a better look.

If I can borrow a digicam, I'll take some more pics of mine.

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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2007, 10:38:13 PM »
washington music center just quoted me $439 shipped for the cm33 matched stereo kit.  i've been wanting to try a pair of these for at least a year but have held off because i haven't been able to find a legit distributor for them.  after doing some research i found that washington music is one of only two rickenbacker dealers in maryland.  has anyone ever dealt with washington music before?  i'm going to give them a call in the morning and see what's up.    :hmmm:

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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #34 on: November 09, 2007, 01:40:39 AM »
The best pic of the front of the cap I've found is http://www.berlinerusa.com/images/cm33_cap2.jpg Open it in a photo program and blow it up about 3-400% for a better look.

If I can borrow a digicam, I'll take some more pics of mine.

Thanks.  From the look of that, it could be any capsule.  By the way, I'm not the only one to note similarity to Behringer C-2's.  Some people on Gearslutz pointed that out too.  Probably made at the 797 factory, but with higher end parts.  Rumour has it that Studio Projects C4 are made there too.  It is just crazy when the vendor (or sales agent?) on Gearslutz would not say where they were made.  I guess one assumes China unless otherwise stated!

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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #35 on: November 09, 2007, 06:21:12 AM »
this company makes a couple of other models as well.....a U7 cardioid tube and U77 multi-pattern tube.
never heard any of them....i just see them in the industry magazines all the time these days.
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #36 on: November 09, 2007, 08:17:15 AM »
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Rumour has it that Studio Projects C4 are made there too.

That is no rumour, the entire Studio Projects line had "797audio" engraved on the mics.  They may have taken it off on the newer versions....
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #37 on: November 09, 2007, 08:33:20 AM »
washington music center just quoted me $439 shipped for the cm33 matched stereo kit.  i've been wanting to try a pair of these for at least a year but have held off because i haven't been able to find a legit distributor for them.  after doing some research i found that washington music is one of only two rickenbacker dealers in maryland.  has anyone ever dealt with washington music before?  i'm going to give them a call in the morning and see what's up.    :hmmm:

i've spent over $30k with them in the last 6 months. great people to deal with.
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #38 on: November 20, 2007, 01:57:58 PM »
The best pic of the front of the cap I've found is http://www.berlinerusa.com/images/cm33_cap2.jpg Open it in a photo program and blow it up about 3-400% for a better look.

If I can borrow a digicam, I'll take some more pics of mine.

Thanks.  From the look of that, it could be any capsule.  By the way, I'm not the only one to note similarity to Behringer C-2's.  Some people on Gearslutz pointed that out too.  Probably made at the 797 factory, but with higher end parts.  Rumour has it that Studio Projects C4 are made there too.  It is just crazy when the vendor (or sales agent?) on Gearslutz would not say where they were made.  I guess one assumes China unless otherwise stated!

  Richard


The people on Gearslutz were just a wee bit cynical. No one there was interested in the quality or the sound, they just wanted to knock a company that I think is trying to get a quality mic into the field but may be perhaps underfunded. Maybe I am wrong on that, but it would seem that way. People on Gearslutz were all all over me for chiming in because my initials were the same as the cm in CM-33. I though cm might have more to do with Cardiod Mic, but I was slammed any time I responded. My entire premise is and has always been, check out the mics, they sound really nice. They seem very well constructed, although I have not taken mine apart. I often try and leave it to my MN taping buddies to tell me what they think of the recordings as they are going to be more objective, and the response has always been really positive. ;D
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #39 on: September 10, 2010, 05:08:39 PM »
Didn't see anything more recent on these mics.  Just came across these today and really like the sound from the shows i've heard on archive.  Going for $399 this month sounds like a hell of a deal.  Anybody that has used these before have any info on them? 
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #41 on: September 11, 2010, 10:13:14 PM »
at $200 a piece - I'd go for the  CAD e70 dual cap card/omni condenser
thread here http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=122357.msg1631459#msg1631459

not as small but have omni card option. and can be had for $100 each and modded

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at full compass - amazon for $73.96
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #42 on: September 11, 2010, 11:20:21 PM »
Wow. Those samples are great dallman. Are you still using these? I see you have a busman kit, how do these compare?
They definitely sound bright/clear.
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2010, 02:51:34 PM »
Wow. Those samples are great dallman. Are you still using these? I see you have a busman kit, how do these compare?
They definitely sound bright/clear.
I found this...
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Berliner CM 33 (Cards)>Busman Mod HD-P2, 24/48

http://www.youtorrent.com/music/7380768/the-rhythm-devils-cedar-cultural-center-mpls-mn-16bit-berliner-cm-33-cards

Looks like someone is using a similar rig...
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #44 on: September 13, 2010, 02:55:46 PM »
The RD Minneapolis show was recorded by Dallman with his Berliners.
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