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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #45 on: November 13, 2010, 10:19:25 AM »
I'm running the Berliner CM-33's with a Littlebox and the results have been outstanding.  Heres a few shows that i've recorded with them-


Umphrey's McGee-
http://www.archive.org/details/UM2010-11-10

Chasing Edison (local band)-
http://www.archive.org/details/ce2010-10-29
http://www.archive.org/details/ce2010-11-05
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #46 on: November 13, 2010, 11:00:54 AM »
Wow very nice
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #47 on: November 19, 2010, 01:49:02 PM »
I'm running the Berliner CM-33's with a Littlebox and the results have been outstanding.

do you have any pics of this setup that you could share?
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #48 on: November 19, 2010, 02:17:10 PM »
^our buddy dallman runs the CM-33......   loves em.......  and I agree, they sound great!
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #49 on: November 19, 2010, 02:20:13 PM »
oh I knew that, just wanted some sexy pics of them bundled with a littlebox
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #50 on: November 19, 2010, 02:58:03 PM »
oh I knew that, just wanted some sexy pics of them bundled with a littlebox
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always lookin for some eye-candy.....   ;)
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #51 on: November 19, 2010, 04:24:54 PM »
Would be a nice portable rig though. too bad they couldnt run off the 12-16v the tinybox pushes..

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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #52 on: November 20, 2010, 02:06:29 PM »
oh I knew that, just wanted some sexy pics of them bundled with a littlebox
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I'm out of town right now, give me a few days and i'll set them up and take a few pictures. 
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #53 on: December 25, 2010, 05:49:46 PM »
Forgot all about this.  I'll try to get some pictures up tonight or tomorrow. 
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #54 on: January 19, 2011, 07:28:37 PM »
Are these built in the same factory as the Avantone ck1, MXL 603, Nady CM-90, CAD GXL1200???
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #55 on: January 19, 2011, 07:58:49 PM »
Read this thread...

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/old-new-product-alerts-moved-out-into-main-forums/82712-berliner-cm-33-compare-km84.html

...poster dcohen Technical Support and Sales for Berliner joined the discussion.
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #56 on: January 19, 2011, 09:56:59 PM »
whoa, that gearsluts thread reminds me of Karma Mics and sE electronics going at it...

Is the Behringer a terrible mic?  The Berliner sounds good to me...
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #57 on: January 19, 2011, 10:01:15 PM »
Yeah, the Berliner *may* sound OK, but there is really nothing to differentiate this from all the other Chinese SDC mics.

Really, I would trust Studio Projects, ADK, etc more than these guys.  At least they have a known product.  Maybe not great, but there is a name, and lots of people have used them.

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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #58 on: January 23, 2011, 01:39:46 AM »
Yeah, the Berliner *may* sound OK, but there is really nothing to differentiate this from all the other Chinese SDC mics.

Really, I would trust Studio Projects, ADK, etc more than these guys.  At least they have a known product.  Maybe not great, but there is a name, and lots of people have used them.

  Richard

Richard that's goofy. What differentiates it from other mics is the sound. Have you used them?

These Berliner mics are light years ahead of the Studio Projects C4.

Here's a show recorded with them
http://www.archive.org/details/um2010-06-05.berlinerCM33.flac16
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #59 on: January 23, 2011, 01:48:31 AM »
Yeah, the Berliner *may* sound OK, but there is really nothing to differentiate this from all the other Chinese SDC mics.

Really, I would trust Studio Projects, ADK, etc more than these guys.  At least they have a known product.  Maybe not great, but there is a name, and lots of people have used them.

  Richard

Richard that's goofy. What differentiates it from other mics is the sound. Have you used them?

These Berliner mics are light years ahead of the Studio Projects C4.

Here's a show recorded with them
http://www.archive.org/details/um2010-06-05.berlinerCM33.flac16

OK, maybe I'm being too harsh.  I have not used them.

What I meant to say is, they are *likely* to be Chinese made mics, like many many others (ADK, Studio Projecs, etc).  We do not know whether they are better.  We don't know if there are any unique parts of the engineering or manufacture, or if the measured specifications are better.  I contrast these with companies that manufacture their own capsules, such as Neuman, Beyerdynamic, AKG, etc, where we have reasons for preferring one brand over another, for example for the sound, capsules, or accessories.

Now, if someone at Berliner said something about the actual capsule manufacture, such as a unique diaphragm material/construction, engineering, etc, I might believe them.

I guess time will tell.  If these sound significantly better in a side-by-side test (studio or field recording) that would be interesting.

  Richard
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