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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2009, 12:36:54 PM »
i picked a couple of these up a while ago and am going to finally test them out in the field this weekend.   i don't have the HR but assume the R-09 would also be 3volts.   i picked up an O tip for the battery and it looks like the 09 needs a B

anyone know what the polarity of each is?

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2009, 12:51:11 PM »
R09 = 5vt
R09HR = 3vt

Pretty sure all edirol proucts are reverse polarity.
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2009, 12:52:38 PM »
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2009, 01:12:43 PM »
R09 = 5vt
R09HR = 3vt

Pretty sure all edirol proucts are reverse polarity.
I will send you a PDF of the manual from home tonight.

I just looked at the wall-wort for my R-09 output= 3vDC @ 1A

and the wall-wort for my R09hr, output = 3vDC @1.2A

both tip negative
just checked they are tip positive!!!
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2009, 12:24:55 AM »
thanks :)

so i went into my local rat shack today to get another b tip.  they didn't any left on the shelf but their spare parts box yielded me a free one.    i wanted to plug everything in and make sure it worked.  i had an O tip for the battery side and the B for the R09.  we couldn't get it to work.... so we tried a different tip, L was the winner.  worked fine when both sides were negative polarity.  so i wanted to at least purchase the L tip from the clerk but he insisted in sifting through his box of spares and hooked me up w/ 2 tips for free.   ??? 
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2009, 02:16:12 AM »
R09 = 5vt
R09HR = 3vt

Pretty sure all edirol proucts are reverse polarity.
I will send you a PDF of the manual from home tonight.

I once built a 4x AA battery sled for my iRiver H120, had to take take to do some tricky things with the polarity there.  The discussion can be found here.  Any chance someone here can tell me whether this would work for the R-09HR or kill it somehow?

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2009, 12:41:45 PM »
bump?
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2009, 08:01:57 PM »
bump?

If it's 3V and the right polarity you will have no problems and ~14-18 hours run-time.

I did look for the voltage but could not find it?

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2009, 12:58:39 PM »
I just made a 4 "D" battery sled for my R09hr cost less than $10 to make.
I'll post some run times after I do some testing. Hoping for a cheap solution for those couple of festivals where I need 40+ hours of run time and don't have access to AC.

One thing worth noting, contrary to what I have read here and had thought myself, the R09 and R09hr are tip positive!!! Checked both wallworts to confirm this.
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2009, 02:24:43 AM »
Thanks JD--

Could you check the image which I link to link a couple posts above and tell me if that type of battery box will work?

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2009, 02:57:56 AM »
Thanks JD--

Could you check the image which I link to link a couple posts above and tell me if that type of battery box will work?

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2009, 09:58:36 AM »
Well the  4 D-cell  external battery pack didn't work out the way I had hoped.

Test specifics..
--Batteries - Duracell Procell (about 15,000 mah)
--Starting voltage - 3.22VDC fed to unit via the DC-in jack
--Ran recorder for 12 1/2 hrs with display on the brightest setting, with the record button lit, recording at 24/48 with the gain @ 40-- Voltage dropped to 2.77vdc
--Paused test for 10 hrs
-- battery pack now at 2.9 R09hr would not power up. Put the internals in, turned unit on, plugged in the external, then removed the internals and the unit stayed on
-- recorder ran for another 8+ hours, then shut off leaving the last file corrupt
--voltage was at 2.7vdc when unit shut down

So a total of about 20 hrs. I'm thinking if I make some dummy battery slugs and feed the voltage directly into the battery compartment it would have gone much longer and the battery meter would have functioned as well. At 30,000 mah capacity, I would think this pack should then run the R09hr for at least 60 hrs.

One thing I noted that was good; with batteries in the unit, you could unplug the external power and it would seamlessly switch back and forth. As long as you have a good voltage at either source, you could hot-swap the other source.
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2009, 07:23:24 AM »
^ First impression is that your test was 95% successful.  Seems like the lesson learned is that with your battery pack you just need to make sure and keep a pair of internals in the unit. 

Were you able to tell, or does anyone know which batteries are the priority batteries when both internal and external are used.  IOW, do the externals exhaust their charge before the internals kick in?

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2009, 09:28:29 AM »
Were you able to tell, or does anyone know which batteries are the priority batteries when both internal and external are used.  IOW, do the externals exhaust their charge before the internals kick in?

It appears as though when there is an adequate external voltage (>2.7vdc) present, it is given priority.

I was bored at work last night so I made some battery slugs up and I am now testing the same battery pack
feeding the voltage thru the internal battery compartment. Looks like I am going to easily pass my 40 hr goal.
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2009, 04:15:02 PM »
Well the  4 D-cell  external battery pack didn't work out the way I had hoped.

Test specifics..
--Batteries - Duracell Procell (about 15,000 mah)
--Starting voltage - 3.22VDC fed to unit via the DC-in jack
--Ran recorder for 12 1/2 hrs with display on the brightest setting, with the record button lit, recording at 24/48 with the gain @ 40-- Voltage dropped to 2.77vdc
--Paused test for 10 hrs
-- battery pack now at 2.9 R09hr would not power up. Put the internals in, turned unit on, plugged in the external, then removed the internals and the unit stayed on
-- recorder ran for another 8+ hours, then shut off leaving the last file corrupt
--voltage was at 2.7vdc when unit shut down

So a total of about 20 hrs. I'm thinking if I make some dummy battery slugs and feed the voltage directly into the battery compartment it would have gone much longer and the battery meter would have functioned as well. At 30,000 mah capacity, I would think this pack should then run the R09hr for at least 60 hrs.

One thing I noted that was good; with batteries in the unit, you could unplug the external power and it would seamlessly switch back and forth. As long as you have a good voltage at either source, you could hot-swap the other source.

Ok this test is finally over, after doing the above with the external jack, I made up some dummy battery slugs and fed the R09hr via the battery compartment> I got another 45 hrs out the same set of 4 D cells for a total of around 65 hours. Plenty for any festival that I do. I kind of liked the pack fed in thru the battery compartment battery solely because the battery meter on the recorder worked.
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