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mixing Copper and Silver cables....
« on: May 21, 2009, 05:34:12 PM »
Are there any disadvantages in using both copper and silver-clad copper in the same chain? 

For example....  Canare Mini-Star Quad > pre > Darktrain silver InterConnects > deck?  Or, Mini-Star Quad > Darktrain silver IC's > pre > Darktrain silver IC's > deck?

Any issues when running two different gauge cables with each other? 

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Re: mixing Copper and Silver cables....
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2009, 05:52:25 PM »
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Re: mixing Copper and Silver cables....
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2009, 05:55:21 PM »
^^^I'm guessing that is a joke?  I'm new to silver...  I wouldn't think that there would be a problem, but don't know....  is that a joke?  Me not so smart.
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Re: mixing Copper and Silver cables....
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2009, 06:07:55 PM »
absolutely not a problem.

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Re: mixing Copper and Silver cables....
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2009, 06:10:43 PM »
absolutely not a problem.

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Re: mixing Copper and Silver cables....
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2009, 06:27:59 PM »
I prefer to mix up my cable chemistry!   :)
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Re: mixing Copper and Silver cables....
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2009, 07:00:57 PM »
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Re: mixing Copper and Silver cables....
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2009, 11:27:50 PM »
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Re: mixing Copper and Silver cables....
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2009, 11:37:46 PM »
straight silver is bright and big
but good ofc copper with it is
even warmer and phatter in bass

way to go for me

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Re: mixing Copper and Silver cables....
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2009, 11:47:42 PM »
straight silver is bright and big
but good ofc copper with it is
even warmer and phatter in bass

way to go for me

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makes sense....  didn't think of it like that.  i asked because i wasn't sure if it might add some noise to the signal or something.....  but didn't really consider mixing the characteristics of the two....  my window has been opened.  thanks.
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Re: mixing Copper and Silver cables....
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2009, 11:59:08 PM »
In playback I was/am always playing with different cables, some warmer sounding (copper), some brighter and more transparent (silver). After about 5 years I am set with what is in my setup but when I was still selling playback gear for a living, this was one of the things I most advised people on it seemed. You have to have an idea of what you want your sound to be and then do some swapping in various points in the chain with different cables.

Keep in mind that cables provide the lightest of nudges toward their respective sounds. Some will claim they don't hear a difference...and that's fine. I do hear a difference but it is usually, not always, subtle. If possible I would try swapping the cable highest in the chain in a controlled setting (like taping a stereo in a quiet living room). Just swap a copper for a silver cable and see if you can tell a difference .

I know a little while back a rep at work asked me to take home a new Cardas interconnect to try out. Skalinder just happened to have stopped by to swap some gear so we gave it a go. Cardas is known for having very warm cables. We replaced my AudioQuest Jaguars DBS with the Cardas and the difference for both me (who has thousands of hours listening to the system) and Brian (who might have 10 hours total) was very apparent. The DVD-A that was playing lost all of it's top end luster and seemed overly soft and warm.  Given, my playback is all tubes but you get the idea... Experiment... find out what works for you.
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Re: mixing Copper and Silver cables....
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2009, 09:34:08 AM »
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Re: mixing Copper and Silver cables....
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2009, 02:31:03 PM »
^^^Looks like I need to start playing around with different cables a bit more.....  thanks for the insight man!
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Re: mixing Copper and Silver cables....
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2009, 02:01:42 PM »
Well. Beeing sceptic here.

I believe it is about impossible to do a true blind AB test and show that even a difference exists between copper and silver cables. It is mostly the placebo effect running here. I have seen audiophiles saying this and that about the fantastic differences and implying that us not hearing it are incompetent. Sort of reminds me of the story "The emperors new clothes". http://deoxy.org/emperors.htm

In my experience you will have larger difference moving the mics a foot in just about any direction (down, up, left, right) then changing between quality copper cables and quality silver. (I know, I know, there are stuff that really destroys sound, we are not talking these).

So, why not stand up to us scepticts and design a true blind AB test, invite a few good ears and do it. Maybe we sceptics can be convinced. Note that in a true AB test neither the listener nr the person doing the test knows which is which at the time the test is done. In order to be acceptable as a blind AB test you have to prove that there is a statistically significant difference. Now, this cannot be too hard really, every licensed drug sold in your pharmacy can pass this test and there are thousands of those.

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