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aeta 6 track recorder
« on: September 29, 2010, 03:27:24 AM »
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dont know  nthe price  but if the preamps like on mixi 3 channel mixer , its way better then most of the gear
6 analog ins , 3 digi aes in out
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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2010, 06:55:43 PM »
The name is (supposed to be) 4Minx. I posted about it a few days ago in the recently created Team AAS / EAA thread.

I'll by at SATIS trade show (october 19 to 21) where they'll exhibit the prototype, I'll try to ask as much question as possible and get some pictures  :P

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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2010, 08:20:12 PM »
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Aeta showing a prototype of a new mixer-Recorder the 4MinX. 4 The recorder has two analog inputs and two digital inputs AES42. There are 3 (stereo) and digital outputs so you can therefore easily to any digital camera, etc. (XD-CAM).
A complete input and output and monitor matrix so that all inputs are available to all tracks and / or exit and / or monitoring can be routed. The recorder takes 2 to 6 tracks at a (64GB) SD Card, depending on model. Another criticism is that the mixer / recorder is very light. The NPF 4MinX will run on batteries (DV) (10hrs). Report. We expect the mixer / recorder around December in the house and to offer at a very competitive price.
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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2010, 03:26:33 AM »
The recorder has two analog inputs and two digital inputs AES42.
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The recorder takes 2 to 6 tracks at a (64GB) SD Card, depending on model.

Two analog and two digital inputs, that makes four channels? Or does it mean that each digital input is stereo (i e feeding two channels in one stream)?
Otherwise where does track 5-6 take their signal from?

I guess this kind of gear competes with the SD744 or similar...
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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2010, 05:19:44 AM »
4 mic/line +  2line ( probably same as it on mixi or 302 that the returns could be routed to main bus)
much better if would be as aditional inputs  so adding sub pre would give you total 6 tracks with camera returns listening ( not really important for you guys but very important for me :-)
aes in and outs
up to 6 tracks
way better then 744
prime targeting eng/efp/ double system   but with a qoality of their preamps could work for  everything
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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2010, 08:41:06 AM »
I am pretty sure you can have stereo AES42 connectors as well (i,e, 1 stereo mic off one 3pin XLR connector - ie Schoeps SuperCMIT)

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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2010, 09:48:15 AM »
Too bad it only has, as far as we know at this point, two analog inputs.  Four would be perfect.  I'm still waiting for high end-ish 4-channel recorder with four XLR inputs/pres (but something not so plasticy as the R4/44). 

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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2010, 10:49:29 AM »
Too bad it only has, as far as we know at this point, two analog inputs.  Four would be perfect.  I'm still waiting for high end-ish 4-channel recorder with four XLR inputs/pres (but something not so plasticy as the R4/44).
cant you count ?:-)
- there are 4 potentiometers ( last one is master gain ) , 4 limiter  indications , 4 preamp gain  indications
you don't need to wait   as sonosax have 8 track with 4+2 ( unbalance) inputs -  but it will never be in r-4 price range :-)
sd 788 , nagra vi, deva ,fostex 606 , cantar aaton ,tascam 82  also have  at least 4  mic inputs with dedecated potenciometers  .
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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2010, 10:53:11 AM »
I am pretty sure you can have stereo AES42 connectors as well (i,e, 1 stereo mic off one 3pin XLR connector - ie Schoeps SuperCMIT)
that's the last i care about , i more concern if could mirror to external media  real time and has good limiters and maybe be updated to get 8 tracks in the future  for more versatility
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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2010, 12:45:12 PM »
The recorder has two analog inputs and two digital inputs AES42.
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The recorder takes 2 to 6 tracks at a (64GB) SD Card, depending on model.

Two analog and two digital inputs, that makes four channels? Or does it mean that each digital input is stereo (i e feeding two channels in one stream)?
Otherwise where does track 5-6 take their signal from?

I guess this kind of gear competes with the SD744 or similar...
AES 42 is a protocol for direct digital interconnection between microphones and devices.  The SD site does not mention or imply support for any other type of signal
http://www.sounddevices.com/notes/recorders/788/aes-42-support-in-788t/#more-318
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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2010, 01:57:59 PM »
I am pretty sure you can have stereo AES42 connectors as well (i,e, 1 stereo mic off one 3pin XLR connector - ie Schoeps SuperCMIT)


So:
 - AES42 1 = 2 tracks
 - AES42 2 = 2 tracks
 - Analog   = 2 tracks
  Total       = 6 tracks

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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2010, 02:11:53 PM »
Isn't the Schoeps SuperCMIT cited a shotgun mic with a choice of two outputs not a stereo mic.  It's either shotgun OR superCMIT output but not both.  And even then would require digital phantom power which then means a three conductor type of connector, so only one channel per digital mic input. So the Aeta is a four track unit which can ONLY accept line input AND digital mic input. 

http://www.recording-microphone.com/digital-microphones.php
http://digital.schoeps.de/en/products/supercmit/application
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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2010, 02:49:35 PM »
I am pretty sure you can have stereo AES42 connectors as well (i,e, 1 stereo mic off one 3pin XLR connector - ie Schoeps SuperCMIT)


So:
 - AES42 1 = 2 tracks
 - AES42 2 = 2 tracks
 - Analog   = 2 tracks
  Total       = 6 tracks
bad assumptions, with that setup there would be no takers at all  for that recorder :-)
aes 42 does not replace any analog  input , you have it as aditional option  like on 788 .


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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2010, 03:02:44 PM »
Isn't the Schoeps SuperCMIT cited a shotgun mic with a choice of two outputs not a stereo mic.  It's either shotgun OR superCMIT output but not both.  And even then would require digital phantom power which then means a three conductor type of connector, so only one channel per digital mic input. So the Aeta is a four track unit which can ONLY accept line input AND digital mic input. 

http://www.recording-microphone.com/digital-microphones.php
http://digital.schoeps.de/en/products/supercmit/application
aes 42 stands for digital phantom on aes input , so yes you could use the both outputs at the same time when each of them routed to its own track , with normal digital microphone both channels with carry same data .
aeta could accept 4 analog  microphones , probably 2 line level inputs (don't sure if it return inputs or aditiona)l   or X( as i don't know how many ) AES Inputs equipped with 10 v dc for aes mics , i assume it has at least 2 like that so you can use a par of aes 42 microphones and route it to any track you need , it still leave you with 4 analog inputs  for total of 6 tracks recording - what exactly you dont  get ?
you can get 2 channels from schoepes at the same time ,one regullar ons super cmit
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Re: aeta 6 track recorder
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2010, 03:07:29 PM »
Isn't the Schoeps SuperCMIT cited a shotgun mic with a choice of two outputs not a stereo mic.  It's either shotgun OR superCMIT output but not both.  And even then would require digital phantom power which then means a three conductor type of connector, so only one channel per digital mic input. So the Aeta is a four track unit which can ONLY accept line input AND digital mic input. 

http://www.recording-microphone.com/digital-microphones.php
http://digital.schoeps.de/en/products/supercmit/application


The supercmit outputs 2 channels.


From http://digital.schoeps.de/en/products/supercmit


new type of digital shotgun microphone with increased directivity, based on SCHOEPS' extremely successful analog model CMIT 5diffuse sound is suppressed to an extraordinary degreecompletely new operating principle with two transducersuses digital signal processing algorithms from ILLUSONIC (patent pending)two-channel output, with SuperCMIT signal in channel 1 and (direct, single-transducer) CMIT signal in channel 2SCHOEPS sound quality: transparent sound

Output
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channel 1: SuperCMIT
channel 2: regular CMIT (shotgun signal only)
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BTW it's a Digital connection not an Analog so you can squeeze more than 1 channel on a single connector.
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