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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2013, 11:09:45 PM »
I, too, would LOVE to try it Trey! but I have no clue when my next show will be :( Ill send you a txt when I find out tho ;)
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2013, 10:57:01 PM »
Trey, just wondering, did you order the minimum gain version at +6db, or the stock version at +16db ???

I would think that if stock, +16db is a good amount of minimum gain IMO, and could lead to clipping at very loud shows. I know the m148 is +20db, and the v2/v3 are at +10db at minimum gain, but I was just curious!

WHEN I do order one of these, I'm going to be sure to get the +6db minimum gain Femto ;D 8)

And the uPre has Input Transformers, for some really clean gain, but probably best at micing acoustic stuff ;)
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2013, 10:16:56 AM »
I have the low gain version.
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2013, 03:41:11 PM »
I have the low gain version.

That's awesome!I f I record anytime soon, I'll hit you up. If I go with tonedeaf, we could do some nice comps!I. Could do mk41>KCY>LB and mk4>KCY>pfa>femto and he runs mk241>LB and/or m934b>VMS 8)
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2013, 02:15:31 PM »
I enquired about the uPRE which seemed to meet my needs better. Apparently it is discontinued. They have a new version coming out early 2014 with digi out to coax in - might suit perfectly. Price will be circa 900 EUR unfortunately.

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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2014, 05:37:59 PM »
Picture of the loaned Femto and a brief (uneducated) first impression of it.

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=166016.0

Really dug my experience with it.  I would agree with Jim though, the ins/outs on the bottom are a bit annoying.  Right angle stubby XLRs would work just fine though.

I will say I did not ask to use it so apologize for that.  Also, forgot to ask whose this even was, but Trey if it was yours: Thanks for lending it out!  It does seem like a very nice little pre. 


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Edit: Now with source!  https://archive.org/details/RRE2013-12-31.CK63.Femto.flac16
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2014, 12:24:37 PM »
Thanks Jim. Anyone else want to borrow?

I'd be up for trying out out if it's available.  I'm 99.9% most likely planning to tape Rusted Root later this month (01/17) and would be curious to run it w/ my rig. 

Shoot me a PM and let me know if it may be available.

Thanks, Trey!

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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2014, 02:08:45 PM »
Just a heads up for those interested in his pre....it has a balanced out only via xlr(5)> 2x xlr(3). I tried patching a sony m10 and sony d50 out of this box and it was too hot of a signal for both decks. I've used it with a dr680 and a r44 with no problem. Both trey and myself have the femto(L) which is the lower gain version. I asked audioroot to engrave my pre with "6db" on the back so if I ever sell it in the future the new owner will know which version it is....audioroot had no problem with my special request and didn't charge extra for the engraving which was really cool.
Regards,
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Thanks Jim. Anyone else want to borrow?

I'd be up for trying out out if it's available.  I'm 99.9% most likely planning to tape Rusted Root later this month (01/17) and would be curious to run it w/ my rig. 

Shoot me a PM and let me know if it may be available.

Thanks, Trey!

Bryan
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2014, 06:47:01 PM »
Just a heads up for those interested in his pre....it has a balanced out only via xlr(5)> 2x xlr(3). I tried patching a sony m10 and sony d50 out of this box and it was too hot of a signal for both decks. I've used it with a dr680 and a r44 with no problem. Both trey and myself have the femto(L) which is the lower gain version. I asked audioroot to engrave my pre with "6db" on the back so if I ever sell it in the future the new owner will know which version it is....audioroot had no problem with my special request and didn't charge extra for the engraving which was really cool.
Regards,
Jim
Thanks Jim. Anyone else want to borrow?

I'd be up for trying out out if it's available.  I'm 99.9% most likely planning to tape Rusted Root later this month (01/17) and would be curious to run it w/ my rig. 

Shoot me a PM and let me know if it may be available.

Thanks, Trey!

Bryan

You tried running an XLR>1/8" cable into an m10? That's a HUGE bummer it's too hot for the m10 as that's what recorder I planned on using with mine when I get mine :(
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2014, 08:41:57 AM »
Correct had a brand new xlr>mini gakcable made and signal was too hot.
Just a heads up for those interested in his pre....it has a balanced out only via xlr(5)> 2x xlr(3). I tried patching a sony m10 and sony d50 out of this box and it was too hot of a signal for both decks. I've used it with a dr680 and a r44 with no problem. Both trey and myself have the femto(L) which is the lower gain version. I asked audioroot to engrave my pre with "6db" on the back so if I ever sell it in the future the new owner will know which version it is....audioroot had no problem with my special request and didn't charge extra for the engraving which was really cool.
Regards,
Jim
Thanks Jim. Anyone else want to borrow?

I'd be up for trying out out if it's available.  I'm 99.9% most likely planning to tape Rusted Root later this month (01/17) and would be curious to run it w/ my rig. 

Shoot me a PM and let me know if it may be available.

Thanks, Trey!

Bryan

You tried running an XLR>1/8" cable into an m10? That's a HUGE bummer it's too hot for the m10 as that's what recorder I planned on using with mine when I get mine :(
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2014, 12:44:49 PM »
This sucks for the owner too

Correct had a brand new xlr>mini gakcable made and signal was too hot.
Just a heads up for those interested in his pre....it has a balanced out only via xlr(5)> 2x xlr(3). I tried patching a sony m10 and sony d50 out of this box and it was too hot of a signal for both decks. I've used it with a dr680 and a r44 with no problem. Both trey and myself have the femto(L) which is the lower gain version. I asked audioroot to engrave my pre with "6db" on the back so if I ever sell it in the future the new owner will know which version it is....audioroot had no problem with my special request and didn't charge extra for the engraving which was really cool.
Regards,
Jim
Thanks Jim. Anyone else want to borrow?

I'd be up for trying out out if it's available.  I'm 99.9% most likely planning to tape Rusted Root later this month (01/17) and would be curious to run it w/ my rig. 

Shoot me a PM and let me know if it may be available.

Thanks, Trey!

Bryan

You tried running an XLR>1/8" cable into an m10? That's a HUGE bummer it's too hot for the m10 as that's what recorder I planned on using with mine when I get mine :(
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2014, 12:51:38 PM »

Really dug my experience with it.  I would agree with Jim though, the ins/outs on the bottom are a bit annoying.  Right angle stubby XLRs would work just fine though.

I will say I did not ask to use it so apologize for that.  Also, forgot to ask whose this even was, but Trey if it was yours: Thanks for lending it out!  It does seem like a very nice little pre. 

Allyn


It is mine. I really wanted to hear it but didn't have anything local (or that I was willing to travel for) anywhere near the close future so I thought I would allow others to use thus allowing me to hear what it sounded like.

You are welcome Allyn. Although the unit was was loaned to jbell, I have no issues with you using it.
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2014, 01:02:07 PM »
Can someone elaborate on "too hot" for the M10? Does this literally mean the dial was at 0 and still overloading? Lower than the commonly prescribed 3-4 setting?

Something about the numbers just doesn't sit right with me. +6dB gain is not a lot. The PSP-2 is close to +20dB and I've run it into the M10 at loud shows, but having to set the dial on the M10 around 1. Tape sounded great, but there wasn't much headroom for anything louder. If they're telling you the femto can be set to as low as +6dB, then something's not right.

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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2014, 01:07:44 AM »
If the combo is too hot, you could always get an attenuator made that goes from XLR>attenuator>1/8" cable made! But I hope that was just a weird issue, because I intend to run femto>m10 when I get mine! And ill be getting the 6db low gain version too!
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2014, 10:33:53 AM »
Appologies...looks like my xlr>mini cable is what's causing the issue. I tried to use it with other gear and same problem.
I successfully used a pair of xlr>rca with mini adapter and signal was fine. Sorry for the bad info.
Regards,
Jim


Correct had a brand new xlr>mini gakcable made and signal was too hot.
Just a heads up for those interested in his pre....it has a balanced out only via xlr(5)> 2x xlr(3). I tried patching a sony m10 and sony d50 out of this box and it was too hot of a signal for both decks. I've used it with a dr680 and a r44 with no problem. Both trey and myself have the femto(L) which is the lower gain version. I asked audioroot to engrave my pre with "6db" on the back so if I ever sell it in the future the new owner will know which version it is....audioroot had no problem with my special request and didn't charge extra for the engraving which was really cool.
Regards,
Jim
Thanks Jim. Anyone else want to borrow?

I'd be up for trying out out if it's available.  I'm 99.9% most likely planning to tape Rusted Root later this month (01/17) and would be curious to run it w/ my rig. 

Shoot me a PM and let me know if it may be available.

Thanks, Trey!

Bryan

You tried running an XLR>1/8" cable into an m10? That's a HUGE bummer it's too hot for the m10 as that's what recorder I planned on using with mine when I get mine :(
Mics:Neumann KM140x2...KM150x2...LC3KA actives x4
Pres:Sonosax SXM2 or Audioroot Femto(L)
Recorders: Edirol R44/Sony PCM-D50/Sony PCM-M10
Retired: Sony D10pro2 modified/ Sony TCD-D8

 

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