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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #60 on: December 03, 2014, 01:53:07 PM »
I'm not directly responding to the 5V issue, but I've directly connected many a mic into the D100 with outstanding results. This includes dynamic mics needing a lot of gain (e.g. even an EV RE-20). Background noise: nada. Also used with lav mics and other mics needing electret connection: works, once again, beautifully.


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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #61 on: December 03, 2014, 03:36:33 PM »
I would love to own (2) of these so that I had one for each of my rigs :) But I really want to do a comp and run mics>littlebox>d100 + littlebox>m10 so I can hear the true difference between the two decks. Is there a comp already out there like that?

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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #62 on: December 29, 2014, 08:29:07 PM »
Here's an acoustic show I recorded this summer when I had the D100. 

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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #63 on: February 20, 2015, 10:11:09 AM »
Guys, Sony has released a new firmware update for Sony PCM-D100. It's V1.02 and makes some enhancements to file splitting on memory cards. It's at http://www.sony.co.uk/support/en/content/cnt-dwnl/prd-dna/sony-pcmd100-firmware-update-ver102/PCM-D100

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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #64 on: February 20, 2015, 10:53:40 AM »
great thanks for this! 
Ive been using the remote and can't split on the fly.

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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #65 on: February 20, 2015, 12:24:09 PM »
@Amir: Many thanks. I didn't know about this update. Now I'm up-to-D100-speed again. Much appreciated.

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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #66 on: February 20, 2015, 01:14:43 PM »
@mitchellm and @birdboy01: you're most welcome. Sony PCM-D100 rocks here too!

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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #67 on: February 20, 2015, 01:23:16 PM »
$800 for the d100 and used SD702s are selling for $1000 or so.  Why buy a d100?

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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #68 on: February 20, 2015, 01:43:50 PM »
Owned the 702-- besides XLR's, other benefits over the D100   -- 10 sec preroll compared to Sony's 5 sec. Unbelievably rich and deep menu, SD is built like a tank.
Still, D100 has that Sony warmth ..

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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #69 on: February 20, 2015, 01:54:51 PM »
@2manyrocks: SoundDevices makes fantastic gear. I have the USBPre 2 and I love it. But you are comparing a used price with new price: not exactly fair. New to new: $2,000 to $800. Is the SD702 worth the price: I'm sure it is. SoundDevices rocks!

But the D100 gives me ultra-portability. It's noticeably smaller than the 702, I can wear it on my belt (important for some stealth recording of ambient situations). It is my "travel studio" where I can use on its own, use with small binaural mics, use with a nice lapel mic, or use with something like the Beyer M88, or use on its own. All that gear can be packed into a very small space, and gives me great flexibility. The recorded sound is beautiful.

I'm sure the 702 is better for other kinds of uses. They are both fantastic tools.
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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #70 on: February 20, 2015, 02:12:22 PM »
Bottom line is D100 sound, especially in DSD mode.  Since I'm a festival guy, I like the lower power consumption from the D100 and the ability to use SDXC media.  The SD702 is a great recorder though, but if sound is your number 1 thing then the D100 wins.


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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #71 on: February 20, 2015, 03:17:08 PM »
Would the proper price comparison be d100 at $800 plus mixd pre at $800 vs. 702 at $2,000?

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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #72 on: February 20, 2015, 04:15:35 PM »
The proper price comparison would be d100 vs. 702. I'm not really sure where you're going with all of this. Seems a bit hopeless, perhaps juvenile. Or perhaps you're just having a bad day.

If you don't need something that's very portable (i.e wear on a belt, put discretely into a purse, etc.) then the D100 isn't for you. Simple eh?

The SD702 isn't nearly as portable as the D100. That's neither a plus nor a minus. Different horses. And for the D100's primary usage scenario the fact that is does not use XLR connectors is a plus. Normally this would not be the case, but right-angled mini-jack connectors take up, once again, much less space relative to XLRs. For obsessive gearheads trying to do a point-by-point comparison it might look bad, but for people needing something very portable, with high quality, the various design decisions Sony made are quite good and user-friendly. And, of course, the D100 is perfectly fine for capturing some things just using its internal mics.

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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #73 on: February 20, 2015, 04:42:05 PM »
I'm trying to understand where the d100 fits within the overall scheme of available recorders.  It is only 2 tracks and no xlrs, yet the $800 price exceeds other 2 tracks with xlr inputs except the 702.  From that, I'm trying to understand what benefit is gained for spending $800 for a d100?  If you plan to use xlr mics, looks like you'd be stuck with an external preamp,too. 

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Re: Sony PCM-D100 Part2
« Reply #74 on: February 20, 2015, 04:54:33 PM »
Aha, got it! I just use an XLR to mini-jack cable. Works fine. I've run an EV RE20 directly into the Sony D100 with great results! (Not a very realistic use case, but you get the idea.) I actually use a Beyer M88 as my "studio mic" when I'm traveling as it's pretty small, great sound, and works fantastic with the D100. At any rate the XLR to mini-jack cables I've used worked fine. In fact I notice no discernible difference in "background noise" when using the same mic via D100 versus using my USB Pre2.

Perhaps another key usage difference is I'm almost always using one mic (for ambient sound, for podcasts, etc.). In the case of 2 mics (e.g. 2 people with lapel mics in an interview situation) I use a MixPre with the D100. But that's primarily because I'm both the sound-guy and the interviewer at the same time: I don't have the ability to check levels while recording. The USBPre and the MixPre both have wonderfully effective limiters.

I think if I was doing a lot of 2 mic stuff, I'd go for the SD 702. It would be a much simpler setup. But 90% of the time I'm using one mic, and portability is the crucial factor. If, and when, I use 2 mic setups (and in those cases portability is really not a huge factor) then the USBPre or MixPre, or of course, 702 would be better solutions for me (especially since I always have to do double-duty).

I hope this helps a bit.

 

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