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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #75 on: August 09, 2017, 11:36:57 AM »
So, that d:vice thing is pretty neat, I hear...

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #76 on: August 09, 2017, 12:07:16 PM »
So, that d:vice thing is pretty neat, I hear...

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #77 on: August 09, 2017, 01:06:06 PM »
Atta Jedi!

Oh, how the tangents lead us astray.

I'm still trying to shed myself from the sheer want of this thing. It's not like I need it or anything. My bbox>m10 works just fine, but I find myself reading about this "device" more than I need to.

I'd rather find solutions to WiFiJeff's concerns, however, because this unit (coming from DPA) should operate as specified. This ain't Tascam! It's kind of annoying that they developed a control app to setup the d:vice, but then leave the user hanging on the recording end.

We've got plenty of fine threads debating the merits of higher sampling rates, and I enjoy reading them. I'm certainly not trying to stifle conversation here, fwiw.

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #78 on: August 09, 2017, 01:25:39 PM »
Yeah, gonna need them higher sample rates seven generations from now, when our hearing evolves....so we can enjoy them with the aliens.

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #79 on: August 09, 2017, 01:38:01 PM »
^ is anyone even debating that? We're just trying to figure out if the device works as advertised. I never record at 96kHz, btw. WFJ appears to want that functionality for his editing workflow.

Nothing wrong with recording at 16/44.1, capn.

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #80 on: August 09, 2017, 04:27:10 PM »
24/44.1 or 24/48 seems to be optimal for humans using recorders.  Process in 32bit float, then convert to whatever you like.


Yeah, this d:VICE is a revolutionary step...let's get back on target with this thread.

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #81 on: August 09, 2017, 04:39:39 PM »
Them aliens might be punks rather than golden-ears. We may wanna rock out with 'em to some 8-bit Devo synth roboto-voice jams lest we offend their musical prejudices!

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #82 on: August 11, 2017, 09:58:47 AM »
Sorry to interrupt these Hi-Res rants with some maybe useful info.

Following a suggestion from DPA, I purchased the Rode recording app.  I hadn't tried this because it has gotten some poor reviews and also didn't claim to work with non-Rode inputs.

I can confirm that it will work with the d:vice MMA-A and record at 24/96.  Signal  up to 40kHz (96kHz sampling rate) is definitely present.  I am testing now to see if it can roll over seamlessly at 2GB or 4GB.  Clearly Apple did something to break those other apps which think they can do 24/96, but iOS 10.3 and the iPhone 6s Plus are clearly capable of handling this resolution.  I hope the other apps get fixed since the Rode app is not entirely easy for me to use yet, maybe I'll get used to it.

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #83 on: August 11, 2017, 10:11:07 AM »
Sorry to interrupt these Hi-Res truths with some maybe useful info...


Fixed that for you Jeff  :cheers:

Oh, and those 40KHz tones, it's probably aliasing you are seeing.  You surely aren't hearing those.
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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #84 on: August 11, 2017, 11:51:25 AM »
Oh, and those 40KHz tones, it's probably aliasing you are seeing.  You surely aren't hearing those.

Thank you for continuing to repeat these original and informative observations, which are not responsive to my inquiry and off topic to the subject of this thread.  I will forward them to Nagra, SD, Sonosax,Tascam, Sony and other manufacturers so they can adjust their future product offerings accordingly.  I am also coding a bot which will insert them into all TS threads that mention 96kHz recording (oh wait, maybe you've done that already).

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #85 on: August 11, 2017, 02:02:58 PM »
The Rode recording app solves all my issues, though it requires some extra work.  You can select sampling rate and stereo or mono file before starting to record, when you finish and want to export you select the export format (.wav, mp3, FLAC, etc.).  For a shorter file I selected wav and got a true 96kHz wav file.  I then recorded for about three hours, it didn't do a split but for export there was no wav selection available, only CAF.  Audacity will allow you to load the large CAF file and split it to export as a 32 bit floating wav file, Wavelab and iZotope Rx can handle those.  The transfer to PC is either by WiFi or iTunes, WiFi can be rather slow but otherwise I've had no problems.

Hope to try it out in the field next week.

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #86 on: August 11, 2017, 02:49:35 PM »
I don't care what sample rate you are using, but I'm pretty sure it's not 96 kilohenries.

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #87 on: August 11, 2017, 04:24:40 PM »
Inductive reasoning indicates atsolata Hanks!

Thanks for the real world updates on use of this thing-a-majob, Jeff.
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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #88 on: August 11, 2017, 06:28:00 PM »
I don't care what sample rate you are using, but I'm pretty sure it's not 96 kilohenries.

My bad.  I've gone back and corrected all the "kHs" to "kHzs" for all those who were understandably totally confused by my error.

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Re: DPA d:VICE just announced
« Reply #89 on: August 11, 2017, 06:59:33 PM »
wow this thread is bizarre

Jeff thanks for the info etc. While I dont do the 96 ive been following your updates as this device seems about the easiest thing to get in to a show ever

glad we've got the early adopters here. Makes it easy for us slackers
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