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Re: video stealth recording?
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2005, 06:33:49 PM »
i was merely sharing some thoughts :'(

oh no. that wasn't a jab at you. that was just a bit of info i learned along the way.  i actually did the whole tape over the red light for a few months before realizing hey i could just turn this thing off after being bored one day and going through the menus thoroughly

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Re: video stealth recording?
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2005, 02:10:25 PM »
That is good information.  I should have stated that in my post!!! ;D

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Re: video stealth recording?
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2005, 07:21:54 PM »
I just looked through my hc-21 sony minidv, couldn't find anything in the menu about shutting the red light off. 

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Re: video stealth recording?
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2005, 09:42:40 PM »
I just looked through my hc-21 sony minidv, couldn't find anything in the menu about shutting the red light off. 
Is there a menu option called "Rec lamp"? That's what it's called on my Sony HC-30.

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Re: video stealth recording?
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2005, 02:51:56 AM »
nothing.  maybe that is an option for the more "luxurious" model.  Mine is the bare bone model.  this is the model they sell at wal-mart though I didn't buy mine there.

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Re: video stealth recording?
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2005, 04:05:32 AM »
Damn, it sounds like they stripped all the useful features from the HC-21 model.  I guess you'll need to use some black tape to cover the recording lamp. Also, make sure you also cover the green light next to the swtich to turn the camera on/off. Even though the band on stage won't see it, people behind you and around you will notice it...

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Re: video stealth recording?
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2005, 11:07:33 PM »
good idea, thanks.

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Re: video stealth recording?
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2005, 04:35:32 PM »
good idea, thanks.

its in there,i have the same camera.

open the lcd while in camera mode

click the FN button

then click the menu button

scroll down and click the ETC button

scroll down to rec. lamp and turn off.

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Re: video stealth recording?
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2005, 10:25:22 PM »
yeah, found it thanks.

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Re: video stealth recording?
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2005, 11:03:51 AM »
The best place to put the camera is on your lap.  If you can put a magazine or something on your lap - that can help a lot.  You can adjust the up/down angle by going up on tips of your toes - but that'll kill you if you try to do for too long.

Of course, the best way to shoot is with the LCD window open - but that'll also get you busted really quick.  However, a neat little trick I picked up from a very experienced filmer: get a piece of the plastic used for window tinting and cover your LCD monitor with it (tape it on all four sides).  Use two sheets if it's not very dark.  That'll reduce the light signature dramatically - but you'll still be able to see what's happening on stage.

But the safest way is to use the normal viewfinder.  Let's face it - a static shot of the stage sucks big time.  You want to zoom in/out as appropriate.  The way you do it is simple: get to know your viewfinder.  It's not as hard as it sounds.  Turn on all of the available viewfinder options (battery life, timer, etc., etc.) and know where each is positioned on the screen.  You can also use the green recording light.  On my cam, the green recording light is top center.  The timer is lower left, just left of center.  Of course, all of this is assuming you have a camera that you can set on your lap and still look through the viewfinder.  Can't do that with a Sony HC-21 because the viewfinder doesn't adjust up or down - it only extends outward.

But getting back to looking through the viewfinder... if you know the green recording light is top center - just take a peek into the viewfinder and zoom in and frame the shot so that whatever you want at the top of the picture is just below the green light.  For example, if you zoom in on the lead vocalist - do it so the green light is right at the top of his head - and voila - you've got a nice shot. 

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Re: video stealth recording?
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2005, 01:01:49 PM »
Green light should probably be covered, to avoid detection.

Thanks for the tip on the LCD tinting film.

I have a SONY HC-32, similar to your HC-21
Can you tell me what Exposure, White Balance settings, and any other modes you used ?


Thanks

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Re: video stealth recording?
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2005, 01:24:15 PM »
Here's a photo of my hc-32 attached, which I've stealthed
with black electrical tape, and a fake 2nd lens.

I hold it sideways to record, and only use the ViewFinder.
So you have to digitally rotate the recording,
using Ifilmedit or Adobe premiere.

I also use an ultrapod as a handgrip, which helps to steady it.

This makes detection by security a non-issue, as they just think
you have binoculars.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2005, 01:28:03 PM by bossanova »

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Re: video stealth recording?
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2005, 06:19:38 PM »
Do a lot of people bring binoculars to shows? Because for a security guard to not become suspicious and just assume it is a binocular there would have to be a lot of people bringing them to the showw. I have never seen anyone using binoculars personally. 

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Re: video stealth recording?
« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2005, 06:22:43 PM »
Do a lot of people bring binoculars to shows? Because for a security guard to not become suspicious and just assume it is a binocular there would have to be a lot of people bringing them to the showw. I have never seen anyone using binoculars personally. 


Actually at all the concerts I have been to there have been people with binoculars.

Depends on the size of the venue, but most arena shows there are lots of binoculars.

Of course, if it is a small club, that seats 100, then there probably wont be too many binoculars.

At opera houses, and theaters of about 1000 - 5000, I have always seen people with binoculars.


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Re: video stealth recording?
« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2005, 06:28:35 PM »
hmmm, very interesting.  I might have to give it a try sometime.

 

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