Topic: It never ceases to amaze me...newbie content

[wrangler_n_space]

Hell i have had a dude come completely resteup my rig for me before. Down at keller in New Orleans, I was trying an xy but the damn sabra som was having difficulty staying the postion that i had it set in. This guy from Chicago comes over and tells me i am running to high so i pull them down and then i look up and he is repositioning my mics. I dont know what you call what he did (pointed at the stacks about 8' apart) but the tapes sounded good. Being the newb that i am, i am always open to anything anyone has to tell me.

[Kindguy]

Being the newb that i am, i am always open to anything anyone has to tell me.

Same here!

[the yokel]

I generally try to help tapers out with setup by approaching them and saying something like, hey bud, have you ever tried this configuration" after seeing what they are doing and knowing what kind of tape was going to be made.  The general response is, "uhh, what's that?."   Then it is fun to watch their faces as you explain taping, distances, angles, seperation as they try to soak it all in.  I generally do this with taper's more my age, as I have gotten the cold shoulder from older tapers who think I have no idea what I am talking about since they have been doing it longer than I and I being 24 probably doesn't help.  Justin is a great example on this board of someone who took the time to read and know what he was doing when I first started running full rig.  Only had a couple of questions, and I pointed him in the right direction...which coincidentally was on-stage DIN!  Wayne, those 184's were definately 184's, I asked the kid who was dripping in sweat trying to get set-up in less than the 10 minutes he had before Keller...kind of amusing I thought!

Daryan

Yep, those were deffinately 184's.  I'd say they were split more like 12' though, my 15' cable made it 3/4 of the split & the stand was 8' high.  Jeff thanks for letting me barrow your extra cable.  As far as being a newbie & ignorant of proper mic configurations.  I was aware that there would probably be a hole in the soundstage(which there is), but as their were lots of other knowledgeable tapers in attendance i wasn't too concerned 'bout pulling the worlds greatest tape.  I've been taping for several years now & have READ & tried pretty much every common configuration in all sorts of enviornments.  However; i'm also a firm believer in learning from experience & not just doin' something 'cause someone tells you thats the way to do it.  Just felt like trying somethin' different that day,  like jeff said it'll probably be the last time i'll try split cards.  Just incase your interested the night before i ran NOS a couple of sets & ORTF the others.  & Daryan, i don't recall you being all too concerned about pointing me in the right direction.  More like you made some snide comment 'bout how i must be running some high end shit.  

[DaryanLenz]

I will tell you, I was so damn high I wouldn't have been much help to anyone at all.  Sorry if you took it personally, I certainly wasn;t trying to offend...but rather make an observation about splitting cards, which just didn't make any sense to me at all.  And I wasn't picking you out at all as far as being a newbie, but rather just making a blanket statement about setting up gear.  Sorry dude.

Daryan

[BillF]

I agree with the advice of "Ask, Ask , Ask and then ask some more and READ READ and READ some more and then ask again"... it is a life time education.
My second show I got big headed and figured I had this taper thing all figured out and knew that the Line in/Mic switch on my Sony D100 DAT would give me more sensitivity and boost the signal in to the DAT... Little did I know about "Brick walling" and the gap in the floor... sounded like I had dragged the mic’s all the way home on the road recording over the show... I was pissed and leaned a good lesson that show - Listen to the advice that works don't be afraid to experiment, but ask first.  There is a good chance that somebody somewhere has already done that and got the tape nailed to the wall as a reminder....

Of course these are my .02 worth

Bill 'The Newbie"

[F.O.Bean]

+T for grabbin up the new avatar, bill......

bean

[BillF]

Thanks, had my eye on a few others, but that one really hit home....  but I am always looking for new stuff

[BillF]

Thanks everyone for all the tickets... I have three shows taped so far (Two turned out well) and will be going to Alpine this Sunday to tape DMB.   Thanks again.  Will let you all know how it turned out.  Just got a MP2 to add to the rig.  Before it was just stand, Mic's and a DAT.  Real Basic.  But now with the MP2, I hope to improve the quality.  Next on my list is the SBM-1... but that is aways off.   Thanks for all the stories and advice - It really helps to read and think about what you all have already done.  I have solved several questions just by reading the posts.  Thanks again!!

Bill "The Newbie"

[F.O.Bean]

Thanks everyone for all the tickets... I have three shows taped so far (Two turned out well) and will be going to Alpine this Sunday to tape DMB.   Thanks again.  Will let you all know how it turned out.  Just got a MP2 to add to the rig.  Before it was just stand, Mic's and a DAT.  Real Basic.  But now with the MP2, I hope to improve the quality.  Next on my list is the SBM-1... but that is aways off.   Thanks for all the stories and advice - It really helps to read and think about what you all have already done.  I have solved several questions just by reading the posts.  Thanks again!!

Bill "The Newbie"

you enjoy yourself....... :afro:

[BillF]

First off ticket to nmculbreth for providing a beginning to a show - read on
+T nmculbreth
Man sometimes we can be our own worst enemy...
I was using a DAT tape and did not pay attention to the length of the tape and at the encore the tape had about two minutes left... recorded crowd noise till it ran out at 2 hours and 3 minutes... the DAT rewound and in my semi state of panic... I hit RECORD.... DOH!!!  I guess I need to pay attention to what my gear is doing...
But anyway, Thanks to a fellow taper who bumped my up about 10 row to about 20 feet from the left stack - and provided his DAT after his equip died about 1/2 way through the show.  THANKS Nick...you da MAN.  Still mixing the 2 shows in my free time ( New Job, just moved too...)

Thanks again Nick...

Bill "My own worst enemy"