Topic: anyone tried the Marc Nutter technique?

[Trevor]

I guess I've been using "the Nutter Technique" since I began taping.  He was the one that explained it to me since he sold me my first set of mics.  This was a long time ago.  Many sets of mics, pres, a/d, later, I have found that this technique still gives me the best results.  After taping many shows, I started to just get a feel of what the room should sound like and set my mics up accordingly.  WSP chicago this year, I used my "general feel for the room" technique and produced a very good sounding tape.  The next night I ran DIN and didn't like the results as much.  I've always used an akg t bar with all of my mics.  But since I've gone from 480s to MBHOs to KM140s to 4021s, the spacing of my caps has become narrower and narrower.  My included angle seems to be getting wider and wider but it really varies on the venue.  i guess what I am trying to say is that there is no configuration that will always give you consistant results.  Nutter's config opened my mind to that.  Experience will help everybody make better tapes, not just rules.  I have made a lot of shitty tapes, but they seem to keep getting better and better.

[quantegy]

I think Simp-Dawg has those shows up somewhere now. Well, at least one of them. I deleted the email and forgot the site (cotapers.com or something) so hopefully he will chime in with the details when its all ready. The shows are:

sci03-5-24
sci03-5-25

Thanks again Simp-Dawg.  

[Simp-Dawg]

 
no problem...here is the link to the first night.  i will upload the second night tonight and hopefully we can put that on bit torrent as well.
http://cotapers.org/BT/sci03-5-24.shnf.torrent

i was listening to the first night just earlier and i thought it sounded nice...looking forward to sitting down in front of the second night with the nutter technique.

[Simp-Dawg]

2nd night is up now as well, would have had it going yesterday morning but the server crapped out over night and i couldn't finish the upload till i got home last night.  but it's up now!  enjoy all!
http://cotapers.org/BT/sci2003-05-25.shnf.torrent

[BCostigan]

hmmm....and the whole time I've been calling it ATS (at the stacks)     That's my usual approach...esp with hypers.  I must admit...Nutter Technique sounds a lot better than just At the stacks

[rabhan]

outdoors, i really like ortf....but indoors, it just gets too boomy, so i have been using 90d for up close and "pointed" farther back, however, nutter technique sounds better than pointed, yet, my distance is closer than 6-8in, i use the stereo bar and adjust the angle and point outside the stacks, imagine pointing at the space of air about 10ft from the stack, thats where i am sometimes, just gotta base it on the size of the room and the sound of the room, and where i set up. it is part science, part technique, and part crapshoot sometimes. heh

[Just Taper Mark from NC]

well,as most nuemann owners who own the STH100 to run their caps active know,you don't have much of a choice as to aiming 'em. your best shot is to get as center between the stacks as you can.

when I run the full bodied mics up top I usually space them 6-8" cm apart and aim to the outside,as said by a few others above this has produced a good consistant sound in my tapes.

I will experiment when I'm taping something like DTB or something along those lines or my friend's band the Duk Tan since I know I will most likely tape over it.

so it seems the "marc nutter technique" is tried and true.

[quantegy]

Has anyone had a chance to download and listen to these shows? I'm interested to hear some feedback even if its bad....

Thanks

[Marc Nutter]

rabhan wrote:

>i use the stereo bar and adjust the angle and point outside the stacks, imagine pointing at the space of air about 10ft >from the stack,

Nice description.  I'm not sure I've conveyed this well at times.

>just gotta base it on the size of the room and the sound of the room, and where i set up. it is part science, part
>technique, and part crapshoot sometimes. heh

Never have truer words been uttered!

Happy Recording,

Marc

[rabhan]

thanks for the compliments marc, it all started bc i bought a D8 from you, and look at me know! +T to you!