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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2007, 10:15:47 PM »
That wire will work fine.

For mics you need two conductors + shield for ground.  You can ground the third conductor with the shield or just snip off the ends of the third conductor and let it be idle.

For balanced interconnects, you could use the third conductor for the ground and tie the shield at the source end so RF drains away from the amplifier stage.

For single ended interconnects, you can do the same thing but use two for signal or snip ends of one and use one for signal and one for ground. 

The directional shield design is described in some playback forum threads and there are other references on different sites.
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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2007, 10:51:44 PM »
That wire will work fine.

For mics you need two conductors + shield for ground.  You can ground the third conductor with the shield or just snip off the ends of the third conductor and let it be idle.

For balanced interconnects, you could use the third conductor for the ground and tie the shield at the source end so RF drains away from the amplifier stage.

For single ended interconnects, you can do the same thing but use two for signal or snip ends of one and use one for signal and one for ground. 

The directional shield design is described in some playback forum threads and there are other references on different sites.

Cool, thanks for the input.
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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2007, 07:31:31 PM »
so what size techflex would be needed for that cable?  1/8", 1/4"?  i like how nicks hydras are often made with both cables in 1 techflex, would that be the next size up?  and what size heat shrink would be best?  man i want it all, dont i..... ::) ;D
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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2007, 11:29:01 PM »
I would use 1/8" nominal inner diameter.  That wire will rattle around in the 1/4" nominal.  For two wires I'd go with 3/8" 1/4" nominal.  Techflex expands quite a bit. 

You might PM nick and ask what he uses, including the diameter of his wire stock for comparison.

(edit: iirc, the standard canare wire is just at 1/4" and the teflon wire I use is about 5/32")
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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2007, 12:16:32 AM »
i didnt see any 3/8 size. ill have to look harder.   

pm sent to nick. 

thanks for the help lil' kim ;D

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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2007, 08:45:25 AM »
Wirecare has 3/8".  Go down, past  https://www.wirecare.com/products.asp?prod=FR&prodline=ES

Although now that I'm not sleepy I think 1/4" is probably the best size for 2 of the thin teflon wires and 3/8" for two of the canare sized wires. 

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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2007, 01:44:10 PM »
fwiw..
I use the 1/8th techflex almost all of the time.
tight fit, but that is what makes the cables so nice.
1/4 is a tad baggy, but works just fine.  they wont "rattle around" .
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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2007, 07:01:04 PM »
Thanks for the input nick.  I'm waiting for the tie-dye hydras :-)

The thing I didn't like about the 1/4" fit over my wires is that when the cable had a sharp bend, the sheath would buckle in a strange way and sort of float around the bend.  That was with the regular flex-o-pet cover.  The fray-less stuff was actually a lot thicker weave and didn't have that problem.

The wire I have for ICs is smaller than 1/4" but I also used some 5 conductor wire that I got for speaker cables and they are just at 1/4" and worked pretty well although the flex-o-pet still buckled at tight bends.
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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2007, 07:13:51 PM »
fwiw..
I use the 1/8th techflex almost all of the time.
tight fit, but that is what makes the cables so nice.
1/4 is a tad baggy, but works just fine.  they wont "rattle around" .
:-)

1/8 even on the 2 wires in one piece of techflex? 

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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2007, 07:48:36 PM »
yep.
it aint easy.  but makes for a nice tight cable.

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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2007, 08:25:29 PM »
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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2007, 08:30:39 PM »
Just grabbed a 100' of this on Ebay.

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Kind of late to ask, but this will work for mic cables and interconnects, right?

Oh no plane crash wire.. I would stay away from that stuff when you flex it over and over again it breaks down the insulation and shorts out... Nice..Techflex does little to stop this... So do your self a favor stay away from plane crash wire.. ;)
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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2007, 09:06:34 PM »
seriously? 
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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2007, 11:00:06 PM »
seriously? 

There must be thousands of feet of this wire in use by TS members.  Have you noticed a lot of people bitching?  I haven't.

 
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