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Offline voltronic

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LOM Microphones
« on: March 06, 2016, 09:57:52 AM »
The Electrosluch line looks very interesting for those who want to investigate EM noise.  The Uši and Uši Pro are probably of more interest to this forum, although it would be nice if they published full specs and samples of recorded music.

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2016/03/latest-microphones-unlock-an-unheard-world/

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2015/07/unique-mics-capture-field-recordings-electromagnetic-sounds/

https://zvukolom.org/product-category/instruments/
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Re: LOM Microphones
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2016, 07:32:59 AM »
Thanks voltronic, very interesting.

I think I will give Jonaš a call - I go to Bratislava quite often.

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Re: LOM Microphones
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2016, 12:44:11 PM »
Thanks voltronic. great read, their website has some cool subtle humour to their explanations.
I kind of like how they are geared toward locating and recording very low pressure noise "from the edge of human hearing" such as from keyboards, mixers, and other interface devices. The recording of the seismic vibrations of the oil derrick is very cool.

Their low frequency mics and applications do for the "consumer" market what the B & K and Josephsen mics used to do for research I was involved with at University and then with a private research company I worked for doing acoustics and then acoustic pressure device design (hydrophones for marine research and down hole drilling). We would use the B & K systems to test our designs. (mostly because my partner had worked for B & K as a systems salesman)
the B & K systems:http://www.bksv.com/Products/transducers/ear-simulators/electroacoustic-accessories/anechoic-test-box-type-4232
http://www.bksv.com/Applications/NoiseSourceIdentification/SoundIntensityMapping/SoundIntensityMeasurements
http://www.bksv.com/Products/transducers/acoustic/sound-intensity-probes

My old partner works designing these now: http://www.geometrics.com/geometrics-products/seismographs/microeel-analog-seismic-solid-streamer/

Definitely not tapers section typical, but I found their site interesting.

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Re: LOM Microphones
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2016, 08:45:54 PM »
^ Wow, that's some really advanced stuff you and your partner were / are involved with.  I think I understood some of it...

I always wondered what kinds of interesting applications the products from the non-DPA part of B&K get used for.  Thanks!
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Re: LOM Microphones
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2016, 10:19:57 PM »
^ Wow, that's some really advanced stuff you and your partner were / are involved with.  I think I understood some of it...

I always wondered what kinds of interesting applications the products from the non-DPA part of B&K get used for.  Thanks!
B&K was the common bond my former partner and I shared. He was a salesman for them when we met, within a month he had loaned me two B&K 4007's with AC power supplies and we used them to record a couple of New Bohemians shows (in 1988-onto Cassette!). Then several months later he asked if I wanted to help him with his start-up. We named it Innovative transducers Inc (ITI) and ran with it from 1988 until it was finally sold in 1997. He was the Geophysicist and his concept was using a new material for the transducer portion basically replacing the ceramic discs of 1960's style hydrophones. We used to joke we were bring the state of the art from the 50's to the 80's, even though that effectively meant it was still 10 years behind!
He even convinced B & K to invest in our underwater pressure simulator which was basically a mini-submersible and could simulate depths down to 5-7,000 feet.
as far as he and I were concerned, their test instruments were the world best at the time.

I dig the LOM stuff as they are bringing that style of instrumentation beyond testing and trying to create sounds or even music with them. Thank you for the post.
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Re: LOM Microphones
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2016, 10:55:27 PM »
Cool stuff Volt,

I remember using some  thing, could've been a poorly shielded malfunctioning mic maybe, or some kind of field coil pickup to record all kinds of freaky yet interesting EMI noises from motors, computers, TVs, and other electrical stuff back in the late 80's.  Might pickup the DIY kit version of their cool detector as a project for my nephew.

Very interesting to read Rocksuit, Thanks for all that.
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http://www.bksv.com/Products/transducers/acoustic/sound-intensity-probes

Near spaced omnis.  ;)

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Hmm, wonder of that thing could do underwater Blumlein in the acoustic region. 
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Re: LOM Microphones
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2016, 11:50:26 PM »
Near spaced omnis.  ;)

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Hmm, wonder of that thing could do underwater Blumlein in the acoustic region.
near spaced omnis indeed!

On the topic of underwater Blumlein- my partner worked on and we chalk boarded and even built a few torroidal shaped (not quite round-wrapped around a many faceted mandrel) microphones which we mounted jecklin disc style to some polymer 10-12 inch "rings" and did do some live recordings with them. the handling noise was too high as we didn't machine any tubes to place them in and their sub sonic frequency (below 10 Hz) amplification made it impossible to do quality audio. Of course, this is what made them when molded into high density polymers great hydrophones as they could withstand the pressure of depth at least down to 3-4k below sea level.
As pure audio mics the thing which damned us the most was the pick up of simple interference like from Flourescent light ballasts or television tubes. the 40-50 Khz which human ears can't hear were amplified by the nature of the PVDF. IMO, he was a genius and should have done more with that technology before he/we sold patent rights to it.
OK too much for this thread and possible threadjacking. sorry Volt!   ;D 
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Re: LOM Microphones
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2016, 08:29:12 AM »
Wondering if this capsule is inside the Uši mics:

http://www.primomic.com/php/get_products_details.php?model=EM172

 

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