Topic: Stealthy Preamp Request for Schoeps > Active Cable > Preamp > Edirol

[jerryfreak]

ill tell ya what, dl that mp3 and help me out with a tracklist on all those old bluegrass tunes and well talk!

are you uploading the DM3 show anywhere?  I'd love to have it.  Recently found out about this band, and so far very impressed.

Nick

[funkoff13]

I only know of three preamps that work with Schoeps caps and without Schoeps bodies:

• Sonosax SX-M2/LS2 ("Lemosax") with Schoeps or custom KCY cable (discontinued, available used)
• N-Box with custom active cables ("boutique" manufacture; contact schoepsnbox here on TS)
• Schoeps VMS (not familiar enough with the different models to list them all here)

1.  i have a new one.... sonoslacks, but its swiss made brah.  a little refresher, sonoflat, sonosux, sonolax, sonocrap. 
2.  nbox....boutique is right and the ONLY 60V option (yes  i am still on a 60V parade).  nicky provides great customer service and the box is built very well. nice full frequency range.  sounds amazing with the mk21's NOS. 
3.  Schoeps VMS....the VMSo2ib has bass rolloff.  nice pre.  IMO the 2nd best option behind the nbox. 



as others have mentioned the 'hot signals' from the nbox are only sometimes an issue with the edirol mini recorders.  edtyre said it best.  additionally, i would read freelunches original posts regarding the r09.  these 2 members are both great resources. 

Please be aware that in some situations the nbox/mic combo produce unnecessary hot signals which could cause issues in the recording/recorder.
See the R09hr thread elsewhere.

Let me give you my slant......it's the recorders that there is an issue with, not the schoeps nbox combo.

Did I imply otherwise?
So far only Schoeps anr/or nbox users.
No conclusive signals/levels to use to recreate the situation in the lab.

you clearly did.  you said 'nbox mic combos produce.'  did i read it wrong.  i know my reading comprehension sonosux.

[carpa]

freelunch says: "It is the r09 and r09hr that are distorting the audio.   There is no excuse for that."

I'm not an expert, but I wonder how can R09hr overload the line input, which has a nominal +2 db, and a max of +28 (as Guysonic measured); this is not +4, but neither -10, which is found in most consumer pocket recorder.

On ts there are a lot of posts of Digifish and others which run r09hr with external preamps (church audio, mixpre ecc.) with no particular issues.

I'n not doubting the fact, of course, just wondering how can it be and if there's a way of guessing how preamp+line in will be just  by reading the specs.
thanks
c

[DSatz]

Just wanted to tack on a note because I saw that the Schoeps CCM 4 was being talked about, and someone had said that it requires 48 Volt phantom powering.

Actually any microphone in the CCM series will have two available phantom powering modes, one at 48 Volts and the other at 12 Volts. That's a big advantage for battery-powered live recording. Not only is 48 Volts rather awkward to generate while 12 Volts is not, but DC converters can be more efficient when stepping a voltage up by a substantial factor (12 Volts to 60 Volts) rather than a small one (48 -> 60). In short, the power consumption per microphone is 50% lower when powered at 12 Volts than at 48 Volts, and the performance (dynamic range, etc.) of the microphone is identical in all respects.

The same happens to be true of Schoeps CMC 6-- amplifiers, by the way.

--best regards