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Title: Roland R-26 vs. Roland R-07
Post by: peterjcm5 on November 08, 2018, 12:38:01 PM
Fairly descent price difference, what about recording quality-how do they compare if they do at all.  I am looking at getting into live recording (I have a background in live sound and a bit of studio experience) and am trying to better understand my options, and in this case the more stealth options.  Are there other companies/devices to consider in this category.  Thanks all, I realize it is a broad question/post.
Title: Re: Roland R-26 vs. Roland R-07
Post by: adrianf74 on November 09, 2018, 04:17:28 PM
Fairly descent price difference, what about recording quality-how do they compare if they do at all.  I am looking at getting into live recording (I have a background in live sound and a bit of studio experience) and am trying to better understand my options, and in this case the more stealth options.  Are there other companies/devices to consider in this category.  Thanks all, I realize it is a broad question/post.

R-26 is long discontinued (hence why it usually sells for a decent amount on FleaBay along with several other recorders).  This an apples vs. oranges situation as the R07 has strictly 1/8" inputs and the R26 has both 1/8" and XLR. 

Depends on your intended use, really.
Title: Re: Roland R-26 vs. Roland R-07
Post by: heathen on November 09, 2018, 04:36:39 PM
If stealthing is part of the equation, I'd recommend keeping your eyes open for a Roland R-05.  A lot of people around here will also recommend the M10.  Both are out of production now, though.  The R-05 seems to sell for less, which I'd say is great because even though a lot of people use the R-05 it still seems to be underrated around here compared to the M10.  I love my R-05 and even though I've seen many opportunities to pick up a used M10, I've never seen a good reason to do so.

As far as what's available on the new market, the Roland R-07 seems to be the clear winner at the moment.  If you want to go really stealthy there's the Zoom F1.  DPA d:vice paired with an iPhone is also a good option, though it kind of locks you in to DPA mics (AFAIK) and it's not cheap.

If you want a deck that can also provide phantom power, but is stealthable, I'm out of my depth.  If it were me in that situation, I think the MixPre-3 is worth consideration.  It's not as small as an R-05 or M10, but it's pretty damn small and stealthing it is certainly a reasonable possibility.

If you don't need to worry about stealthing when using phantom power mics, there's the option of using your stealth deck with an outboard preamp.  This seems like a good time to be picking up preamps around here...all-in-one recorders have gotten good enough that a lot of people have no interest in external preamps so you can get some good used deals.
Title: Re: Roland R-26 vs. Roland R-07
Post by: ThePiedPiper on November 10, 2018, 03:03:43 PM
If stealthing is part of the equation, I'd recommend keeping your eyes open for a Roland R-05.  A lot of people around here will also recommend the M10.  Both are out of production now, though.  The R-05 seems to sell for less, which I'd say is great because even though a lot of people use the R-05 it still seems to be underrated around here compared to the M10.  I love my R-05 and even though I've seen many opportunities to pick up a used M10, I've never seen a good reason to do so.

As far as what's available on the new market, the Roland R-07 seems to be the clear winner at the moment.  If you want to go really stealthy there's the Zoom F1.  DPA d:vice paired with an iPhone is also a good option, though it kind of locks you in to DPA mics (AFAIK) and it's not cheap.

If you want a deck that can also provide phantom power, but is stealthable, I'm out of my depth.  If it were me in that situation, I think the MixPre-3 is worth consideration.  It's not as small as an R-05 or M10, but it's pretty damn small and stealthing it is certainly a reasonable possibility.

If you don't need to worry about stealthing when using phantom power mics, there's the option of using your stealth deck with an outboard preamp.  This seems like a good time to be picking up preamps around here...all-in-one recorders have gotten good enough that a lot of people have no interest in external preamps so you can get some good used deals.

All GREAT comments by Heathen.  I would like to give my vote for the Zoom F1. It's built like a little tank, but VERY small and stealthy. I'm absolutely 110% pleased with mine.
Title: Re: Roland R-26 vs. Roland R-07
Post by: u2_fly_2 on November 23, 2018, 03:01:17 AM
R-26 also has decent or better than average internal micĀ“s than most recorders.

Also you can record up to 3 different sources at the same time and make a matrix later on with the files.
Title: Re: Roland R-26 vs. Roland R-07
Post by: achalsey on November 24, 2018, 12:50:32 AM
^ Technically true, but I believe the R-26 only records 4 channels from external sources (dual XLR and a stereo 1/8" input).  The third source has to be the onboard mics.