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Re:V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #150 on: November 25, 2003, 01:24:45 AM »
i agree, the v3 could prolly be dropped from a ten story window and it would bounce right back up.... 8)
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Re:V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #151 on: November 25, 2003, 04:13:37 AM »
I've thought about a ton of external mods to the UA5 that'd be cool...  I wonder where I could buy the parts and the patience to do such a thing...


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Re:V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #152 on: November 25, 2003, 05:37:08 AM »
i agree, the v3 could prolly be dropped from a ten story window and it would bounce right back up.... 8)

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Re:V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #153 on: November 25, 2003, 08:40:33 AM »

exactly, that is how I feel also. While good sound is important, I also look for something that is well built, and nothing is as well built for field use than a V2 or V3.

I would put up an AD-20 against anything in a distruction test.

I think you could take an AD-20 and throw it across the room and beam the w00kie in the head (that stormed through the section),  during the set break  and it would work fine afterward.
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Re:V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #154 on: November 25, 2003, 09:44:53 AM »
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« Reply #155 on: November 25, 2003, 11:51:07 AM »
They tested the ULN-2 by running a forklift over it. That thing is one solid box too. I wish it were shaped more like the V3, though!
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Re:V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #156 on: November 25, 2003, 12:44:34 PM »
I would put up an AD-20 against anything in a distruction test.

I think you could take an AD-20 and throw it across the room and beam the w00kie in the head (that stormed through the section),  during the set break  and it would work fine afterward.

Amen.  One thing those Denecke people know how to do is build an indestructible and practical piece of gear.

Some slick little "features:"

- The battery just clips in, no freaky holder to deal with
- You can clip a battery in backwards without damaging the unit or discharging the battery, so you can store a battery in it.
- There's a minijack in the battery compartment that accepts 7 to 24 volts DC (picky, isn't it?) so you can run it off whatever you're using to run everything else

Yeah, great starter pre/ADC, no doubt.  I love mine, but am thinking TL/UA-5 in the future... :)

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Re:V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #157 on: November 25, 2003, 01:13:39 PM »
keep thinking tl/ua-5.  thats what i run, and it rocks.....
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Re:V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #158 on: November 26, 2003, 02:49:09 AM »


ua-5,ua-5,ua-5,ua-5, ua-5, ua-5,ua-5,ua-5,ua-5,ua-5....... :)
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Re:V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #159 on: November 26, 2003, 03:44:00 AM »
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« Reply #160 on: November 26, 2003, 09:54:54 AM »
My first car, a '72 Dodge Charger, had an indestructible body as well. Bounced off two embankments and fishtailed into a ditch, not a mark on it in '81. Unfortunately, everything inside was pure shit. Go ahead v3 fluffers, make fun of the Apogee. Although I forget when the last time dropping an a/d was a crucial part of a good pull.  :D

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Re:V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #161 on: November 26, 2003, 10:44:57 AM »
This debate is getting close to a meet me at the flagpole situation...  

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Re:V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #162 on: November 26, 2003, 10:48:30 AM »
don't say flagpole, William, you're inviting Kinder/Smiley posts.

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Re:V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #163 on: November 26, 2003, 12:55:48 PM »
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I don't own one either, so I may be completely wrong here.  However, a good project has foresight, and Grace has one.  As far as I know, the 316 was the first production unit, which turned into the v2 ->v3.  However, I have mid 80's GD tapes with a grace p/s in the lineage.  So, this thing has been in the works for a long time...  and I would assume there are other incarnations in the future.  Hopefully, Mike Grace is doing well and will continue to present us with solid gear and affordable costs.

I agree with the R&D comments. I think something has to be said about overall craftsmanship. IMO, the V3 is by far, a better crafted product. The materials, connectors are much more solid. If you compare the costs of producing such products, you have to look at the size of these companies. I'm not sure how large one is as compared to the other so the production costs could vary. Methods of production can greatly effect the production costs as well. I imagine Grace Designs isn't pumping these boxes out nearly as fast as Roland/Edirol and my assumption is that grace designs takes a little more of a hand-crafted approach. It certainly appears so on the surface. Little design flaws on the ua-5 make a big difference to me in my opinions on craftsmanship. The phantom button is a button for starters and it is located practically on top of the right channel gain knob.....whereby, someone can easily turn off phantom while simply adjusting gain. The gain knobs are too close to the xlr in's as well. you have to hold your fingers in a crab-like pinching motion to get in there. The v3's gain knobs are smooth as silk and easy to get to. Althought they have the 5db stepped gain which can be undesireable to some....but not an issue for me. The power switch on the v3 is a switch...not a button that can be turned off easily if you are fiddling around through the bag a little carelessly. Too many plastic or plastic-like connections and materials on the UA-5 for my tastes. But those lesser materials lower production costs and make production faster. Good design and Good craftsmanship mean a great deal to me but i bought this box because it was a great sounding, affordable solution to my problem.  

exactly, that is how I feel also. While good sound is important, I also look for something that is well built, and nothing is as well built for field use than a V2 or V3.
Very well put. I used the MMe and switched to a V3 and couldn't believe the difference between the two. The V3 captured exactly what I heard at the show.  That's what I was looking for. I would say it would be hard to really compare and two pre's unless you were at the show and taped it and were at home listening to the recording remembering what you had heard. And from that point it just becomes taste.  If a lot of you were actually at the Hillbilly show you may have a different opinion on what source you liked better becuase what the sound the two units produced may not be what you heard at the show.  
Regardless I wish I could hear the two sources. Even a blind test would be nice for my own amusement. I can't figure the download out.
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