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ISO a more stable 7pin Solution for SBM-1 > M1
« on: March 07, 2010, 12:47:29 AM »
Look at me, home on a saturday night trolling the board.
Wooo!

OK. Preparing for a 3-week taping stretch.
I've just picked up a nice extra from zeus163:

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=114846.0

I've never had one of these with the coax out before.
I've always been trapped with the 5 inch 7pin tail on my previous SBM-1, but this gives me a few more options for the length of cable between the 2 units.

I scoured the boards to see what kind of options I had for cables until I found this:

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=108925.0

unfortunately a year old post, but since the consensus is that DAT is almost dead and you guys are riddled with DAT knowledge, I'm sure someone here either has the cable solution sitting around and wants to get rid of it or has a better idea than me.

With what I currently have sitting around, I can do this (see image), but that kind of leaves an iffy 'bump' in the middle of my connection. But it IS an easy one to secure with a loop. I still think there must be a better, smoother way to connect the coax out to something that terminates in a solid 7pin male.

Looking at options, it seems really what would be good would be 7pin > 7pin and about 2' inbetween, but that just doesn't exist. I can make one (see pic 2), but that involves 2 rather annoying connections in the cable.

What would you guys do?

(besides the obvious, of NOT connecting these 2 units and running a different system altogether.)

Thanks Again,

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Re: ISO a more stable 7pin Solution for SBM-1 > M1
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2010, 03:38:14 PM »
Wow.
So am I a pariah for trying to use this combination, or do you really all have no opinions on this?
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Re: ISO a more stable 7pin Solution for SBM-1 > M1
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2010, 05:22:30 PM »
I would go with the setup on the first pic. Less cables to worry about

If/when your m1 goes out. pick up a used microtrack. They are 75-100 used
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Re: ISO a more stable 7pin Solution for SBM-1 > M1
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2010, 06:49:18 PM »
I'd sell the M1 on ebay and pic up microtrack - No more DAT tapes! - You'd probably make an extra $50-100 in the process
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Re: ISO a more stable 7pin Solution for SBM-1 > M1
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2010, 10:11:48 PM »
Now that's what I'm talking about!
Whew!
I was worried no one had any opinions.
Sorry you guys hate DAT so much.

Here's another silly question.

Assuming I'm using the setup in the 1st picture.
Should I use the Active or Passive cable?
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Re: ISO a more stable 7pin Solution for SBM-1 > M1
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2010, 11:55:48 PM »
I'd use the active cable.
 
I am pretty sure Sony Made a 7-pin <> 7-pin cable - pretty rare and only in the Japanese market.
 
Also the SBM-1 originally shipped wit a 7-pin and not COAX - looks like you have an Oade cable moded version.
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Re: ISO a more stable 7pin Solution for SBM-1 > M1
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2010, 12:41:15 AM »
I just tried it out on a brand new "setup" and it sounds like a simple little half inch male>make RCA adapter will fit snugly on the end of COAX out and into my COAX cord, extending the thing pretty well and keeping me using only 1 of my 2 Oade Cables. That should suit my purposes for the time being, but I sure would like to avoid bringing my Oade Cables to the shows.

If I wanted to find one of the many Sony Cables listed on the 7pin bible page:

POC-DA12P is 7-pin to optical Toslink digital in/out
POC-DA12MP is 7-pin to optical Miniplug in/Toslink out
POC-DA12SP is 7-pin to optical Miniplug in/out

or even the 7-pin <> 7-pin cable you mentioned, I should just post ISO in the yard sale, correct?

I wonder what it would cost to find those in today's anti-DAT environment?

Thanks for the help!

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Re: ISO a more stable 7pin Solution for SBM-1 > M1
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2010, 08:53:08 AM »
I was on a quest to find one of these cables 2 years ago to go sbm1-iriver. I ended up picking a "maestro" adapter also.

I have no need for this anymore
POC-DA12P is 7-pin to optical Toslink digital in/out

PM me if you want the cable so we can work out the details.

btw I don't understand how you are going to use the cable. I thought the only way to go digi in on the M1 was through the 7pin. How does the toslink work into the equation?



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Re: ISO a more stable 7pin Solution for SBM-1 > M1
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2010, 11:34:21 AM »

btw I don't understand how you are going to use the cable. I thought the only way to go digi in on the M1 was through the 7pin. How does the toslink work into the equation?

Hm.
I guess I never thought about that!
I just want to keep my battery-eating Oade Mod SBM-1 box working as hard as possible for as long as possible.

Here are a few options:
http://www.mycablemart.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=1438

http://www.opentip.com/Electronics-Computers/In-Out-Digital-Fiber-Optical-Splitter-p-736551.html

(I'd need 2 of the cables for that, but then I could run 2 outs as well if I used that 2nd box)

Here's an immediate use:

http://www.mycablemart.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=1128

that's a pretty small box that could be stable enough if the optical locks in.

How sturdy is that "maestro" adapter? Could it be anchored into a deck in your pocket and trusted? Is it the kind of thing I should be on the lookout for, just to plug into the end of an optical cable some day?

Thanks for all tips.

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Re: ISO a more stable 7pin Solution for SBM-1 > M1
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2010, 11:44:02 AM »

Here's an immediate use:

http://www.mycablemart.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=1128

that's a pretty small box that could be stable enough if the optical locks in.


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Re: ISO a more stable 7pin Solution for SBM-1 > M1
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2010, 03:41:35 PM »
Crap!
I guess I was somehow hoping that it was a box that didn't need power.

I suppose any kind of converter will need power...
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Re: ISO a more stable 7pin Solution for SBM-1 > M1
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2010, 02:34:06 PM »
the easiest way would of been to get a stock sbm-1 and it would of had the 7 pin tail instead of the coax, and u could of put the 7 pin tail directly into the m-1 w/o any oade cables needed.  ed
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