Topic: AD2K+ vs. Mytek ADC ***COMP LINED UP***

[balou2]

Anybody done any comps for the AD2K+ versus the Mytek ADCs?

Opinions?

Teddy...you've used both, yes?

[RebelRebel]

Used? Havent used the AD2K, but as my friend the taper owns one I have heard them side by side. The AD2K , from what ive heard, and IMHO, didnt come close in terms of clarity and overall sound quality.Mytek seems  in a different league.. The AD2K is rather old isnt it? Converters seem to grow outdated more quickly than anything else.

If you do want a Mytek, Mike....Shoot me a PM.

[F.O.Bean]

i have never heard the mytek so this post is prolly useless, but the 4022>v2>ad2k tapes that my friend pete lane has made are stellar, the ad2k is nothing to shun about, and it not that olde, i think it was released in 200 or somewhere around that time

anyway, id LOVE to hear a comp between these two units as ive always thought/heard the ad2k as being the best ADC in the field most days

[balou2]

i have never heard the mytek so this post is prolly useless, but the 4022>v2>ad2k tapes that my friend pete lane has made are stellar, the ad2k is nothing to shun about, and it not that olde, i think it was released in 200 or somewhere around that time

anyway, id LOVE to hear a comp between these two units as ive always thought/heard the ad2k as being the best ADC in the field most days

Dude...when did you join Team 722?

[F.O.Bean]

i have never heard the mytek so this post is prolly useless, but the 4022>v2>ad2k tapes that my friend pete lane has made are stellar, the ad2k is nothing to shun about, and it not that olde, i think it was released in 200 or somewhere around that time

anyway, id LOVE to hear a comp between these two units as ive always thought/heard the ad2k as being the best ADC in the field most days

Dude...when did you join Team 722?

ordering when cascade/SS opens on tuesday

[balou2]

Duh...http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=65411.0

Congrats on the toys man. 

+t

[Swanny]

I haven't run a 2K+, but I do love my mytek. It really is state of the art. I hope to run some comps at panic this summer. As far as sound goes I find the AD2K a little dry. The Mytek 24/192 is a little more reference clean, a lot like the old Apogee sound. The only advantage of the 2K+ is being able to run 16 & 24 bit. You also have to carry around a 12v though...

[RebelRebel]

I haven't run a 2K+, but I do love my mytek. It really is state of the art. I hope to run some comps at panic this summer. The only advantage of the 2K+ is being able to run 16 & 24 bit. You also have to carry around a 12v though...

Yep,but with the Mytek you can run from 7-12v, which opens up more solutions..

[JasonSobel]

I haven't run a 2K+, but I do love my mytek. It really is state of the art. I hope to run some comps at panic this summer. The only advantage of the 2K+ is being able to run 16 & 24 bit. You also have to carry around a 12v though...

Yep,but with the Mytek you can run from 7-12v, which opens up more solutions than SLAs.

I run my HD-P2 off a 12v NiMH battery.  there are many options for 12v that are NOT lead-acid batteries.
IMO, that should not be part of this discussion, just how the two units sound...

[RebelRebel]

You are right, but I think Mike is probably looking at the whole picture here...theres more than sonics to consider.  If sound was the only factor in gear purchasing, thered be a lot more variation in gear than is seen on this forum....Mike?

I haven't run a 2K+, but I do love my mytek. It really is state of the art. I hope to run some comps at panic this summer. The only advantage of the 2K+ is being able to run 16 & 24 bit. You also have to carry around a 12v though...

Yep,but with the Mytek you can run from 7-12v, which opens up more solutions than SLAs.

I run my HD-P2 off a 12v NiMH battery.  there are many options for 12v that are NOT lead-acid batteries.
IMO, that should not be part of this discussion, just how the two units sound...

[balou2]

You are right, but I think Mike is probably looking at the whole picture here...theres more than sonics to consider.  If sound was the only factor in gear purchasing, thered be a lot more variation in gear than is seen on this forum....Mike?

I haven't run a 2K+, but I do love my mytek. It really is state of the art. I hope to run some comps at panic this summer. The only advantage of the 2K+ is being able to run 16 & 24 bit. You also have to carry around a 12v though...

Yep,but with the Mytek you can run from 7-12v, which opens up more solutions than SLAs.

I run my HD-P2 off a 12v NiMH battery.  there are many options for 12v that are NOT lead-acid batteries.
IMO, that should not be part of this discussion, just how the two units sound...

Absolutely Teddy.  When it comes to gear, it's about overall use.  If size, portability, etc... didn't matter, I'd wheel my rack around everywhere.  With the exception of some of the choral music I do, I don't usually have that luxury, so the portability contingent certainly becomes a consideration.

The original question, Mytek vs. AD2K certainly included field use and ease.  I have no doubt the Mytek is better sonically.

Thanks and t's to all for the advice and words.
mike

[gngrbrdman13]

Used? Havent used the AD2K, but as my friend the taper owns one I have heard them side by side. The AD2K ,

This is a good point....that is why it is bold Teddy .  I cant wait to hear a Mytek.  If someone will lend me one I will run the comps with the ad2k>744....uh oh ya heard it here first.  The nbox sounds too damn good with the SD........yes sir may I get one of those.

[wbrisette]

I use to run the AD2K+, in fact ran it for 3 years??? can't remember, something like that. Anyhow, it's a nice unit, but here is one other thing to consider. When I spoke to Benchmark about an issue I was having (Low power LED would come on too soon), the guy mentioned to me that the reason they stopped making the AD2K+ was because they couldn't get some of the parts anymore (sound familiar?). The unit is a bit old in the tooth, but it's built like a tank, so it should last for years. However, if something does go wrong with it, there are chances you might not be able to get it fixed if it happens to be one of the parts Benchmark can no longer get. This obviously must also be taken into consideration.

Wayne

[gngrbrdman13]

I use to run the AD2K+, in fact ran it for 3 years??? can't remember, something like that. Anyhow, it's a nice unit, but here is one other thing to consider. When I spoke to Benchmark about an issue I was having (Low power LED would come on too soon), the guy mentioned to me that the reason they stopped making the AD2K+ was because they couldn't get some of the parts anymore (sound familiar?). The unit is a bit old in the tooth, but it's built like a tank, so it should last for years. However, if something does go wrong with it, there are chances you might not be able to get it fixed if it happens to be one of the parts Benchmark can no longer get. This obviously must also be taken into consideration.

Wayne

I wasn't aware of that.  Interesting.  Def.  s/b taken into consideration.
Do you know what parts......sounds very familiar....can you say toaster?
dd

[wbrisette]

I wasn't aware of that.  Interesting.  Def.  s/b taken into consideration.
Do you know what parts......sounds very familiar....can you say toaster?
dd

I don't know what parts, but I'm sure if you call Benchmark, they will tell you.

Wayne

[Genghis Cougar Mellen Khan]

i have never heard the mytek so this post is prolly useless, but the 4022>v2>ad2k tapes that my friend pete lane has made are stellar, the ad2k is nothing to shun about, and it not that olde, i think it was released in 200 or somewhere around that time

anyway, id LOVE to hear a comp between these two units as ive always thought/heard the ad2k as being the best ADC in the field most days

If it was released around 200, that's pretty old. 

I know you meant 2000 bean, 5-6 years is a pretty significant time leap when you're dealing with A/D chips.  That's not to say someone wouldn't prefer the sound of the older chip though.

[Kyle]

One thing I have to add - the metering is top-notch - imo, the best I have seen in a portable device.

[balou2]

After the dialog, it looks like we're gonna get a true comp on these.  I'm shipping Swanny my XLR splitters, and a fairly nice comp should come out of it:

Schoeps MK5/41 > KC5 > CMC6 > Oade M148 > Mytek 24/192 > SD 722/ MT 24/96/ Laptop

Schoeps MK5/41 > KC5 > CMC6 > Oade M148 > AD2K+ > SD 722/ MT 24/96/ Laptop

...providing, that is, he uses his normal rig.  This should be a GREAT comparison, and with the brick in the middle, the clarity will climb even that much further.  I'm looking forward to hearing this...seriously.

mike

[gngrbrdman13]

so how is the mytek powered?

[Genghis Cougar Mellen Khan]

so how is the mytek powered?

The Mytek Stereo96 ADC is a/c only.

The Mytek Stereo192 ADC can work off of a 7-12V External Battery.

[gngrbrdman13]

so how is the mytek powered?

The Mytek Stereo96 ADC is a/c only.

The Mytek Stereo192 ADC can work off of a 7-12V External Battery.

Thanks!  So this may be a 7.5v Li Ion batt?  What do you guys use?

[balou2]

I don't use the Mytek, but I think it will work on a 7.5 V LiIon battery.  It's pretty versetile with regards to power supply.  Personally, I wish ALL boxes would allow for such a diverse power voltage.  It would make things so much easier, not to mention compatible.

[RebelRebel]

It can be any battery from 7>>12v although the 12v made it run a little hot(nothing to be concerned about) I found that a 9v was bout right for the concerts that I tape ,which are 2-3 hours.

 

so how is the mytek powered?

The Mytek Stereo96 ADC is a/c only.

The Mytek Stereo192 ADC can work off of a 7-12V External Battery.

Thanks!  So this may be a 7.5v Li Ion batt?  What do you guys use?

[284201]

It can be any battery from 7>>12v although the 12v made it run a little hot(nothing to be concerned about) I found that a 9v was bout right for the concerts that I tape ,which are 2-3 hours.

I use a 12V, and mine doesn't get hot at all.  Might be due to that fact that it's NiMH and not SLA.  YMMV.

[scb]

9V lithium works great for me

[ford prefect]

I saw a thread on Gearslutz from back in January that the Stereo192 has firewire on it now.  Is that what you have Ted or Scott?

http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?t=53007

It's toward the end of the thread when someone brings the 192 up.

Hi David and Michal,
I would like to know more about the Stereo 192-DSD DAC.

This unit design has been modified since original announcement. An important addition to this $1995 unit is built in direct firewire interface which significantly broadens its market appeal. It is too early for me to speculate on delivery date, other than it will be this year.

Edit to say that Mytek's customer service gets smacked around a bit in that thread.

[RebelRebel]

That is the 8x192 that does DSD/DA not the stereo 192. stereo 192 is PCM only.

I have an 8x192 and a few stereo 192s.

Yes, it is no secret that Michal is not equipped to do customer service. BUT! David was brought on from Benchmark to offset Michals weaknesses and has done very well. He always emails me within minutes. (David)
It is all good so long as you deal with David.


 

I saw a thread on Gearslutz from back in January that the Stereo192 has firewire on it now.  Is that what you have Ted or Scott?

http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?t=53007

It's toward the end of the thread when someone brings the 192 up.

Hi David and Michal,
I would like to know more about the Stereo 192-DSD DAC.

This unit design has been modified since original announcement. An important addition to this $1995 unit is built in direct firewire interface which significantly broadens its market appeal. It is too early for me to speculate on delivery date, other than it will be this year.

Edit to say that Mytek's customer service gets smacked around a bit in that thread.