Topic: Marantz PMD-671 in the field part 4...

[tfs8271]

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but I can't help you...I was thinking cellphone, But that ain't no cellphone.

[sygdwm]

does anyone know when the acm 671 is run wide open (dial at 10) how much gain it's pushing out? 

i'm wondering if it's enough for a full on acoustic gig, or if i should run my t+ ua5 in front of it to be safe.

If I remember correctly it's actually an attenuator.  Full acoustic gig you should be able to run with the 20 db pad off.

i've never run without the pad engaged because i thought doug said the ACM was designed to be run with it on at all times.  has anyone ran with it off?

all i know is, do not turn off the pad for a PA recording. you *will* brickwall.

/never recorded an acoustic gig

[sygdwm]

Experieced some general wierdness last night, looking for some possible solutions.

Last week I ran Old School Freight Train no problems KA500>Actives>603a .5 meter Zaollas>ACM671 (24/48) (AC Power) San Disk 4GB
Last night I ran Larry Keel exact same setup except I ran analog out to a Tascam CDA4U to give the band a copy.
I monitored the 4U and everything was fine. I was in at the soundcheck to set levels, accidently recorded about 10 minutes of the soundcheck. Spot checked the CDs before handing them to the band everything was fine.

I got home popped the card into the reader and I have clipping digi noise about every 2 seconds during everything except the the sound check

Any Ideas on what happened.

Here is a link to 30 seconds of the audio.
http://homepage.mac.com/montyallen/FileSharing16.html

i had similar issues from the right channel (463>dogstars>bm2ua5>stock671>kingston45x) the other nite at lotus. it was all over the first set and then none in the second set. tried to recreate the problem at home and everything checks out. wish i could help.

[Dutchman1101]

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but I can't help you...I was thinking cellphone, But that ain't no cellphone.

FWIW I don’t believe cell phones effect solid-state recorders. I think they only cause noise on hard drives. I could be wrong though That's what I've heard in the past at least.

[sam]

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but I can't help you...I was thinking cellphone, But that ain't no cellphone.

Not a cellphone mine was off and I saw and I saw the table closet to me turn them off. Can't recreate it here at the home.

I contacted Larry to see if I can get copies of the cds back. I'll wait to see what happens.

[leehookem]

The 671 controls are attenuators, so it is best to run above 7. That's what Doug told me when I had mine.

glad I was remembering correctly.  The only time I have run effectively without the pad, I was recording bluegrass music.  Once onstage and once PA.

[tfs8271]

Going to see them 2/24....can't wait.

The gig I'm worried about is this Tuesday, The Chris Thile Band and the opener, Sometymes Why.

Sometymes Why Personnel -
Kristin Andreassen (Uncle Earl) - vocals, guitar, harmonica, glockenspeil, piano, cymbals, tambourine
Aoife O'Donovan (Crooked Still) - vocals, guitar, ukulele, piano, glockenspeil, tambourine, cowbell
Ruth Ungar (The Mammals) - vocals, guitar, ukulele, fiddle, glockenspeil, high hat

Thile Personnel -
Chris Thile - mandolin
Bryan Sutton - guitar
Gabe Witcher - fiddle
Noam Pikelny - banjo
Greg Garrison - bass

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but I can't help you...I was thinking cellphone, But that ain't no cellphone.

FWIW I don’t believe cell phones effect solid-state recorders. I think they only cause noise on hard drives. I could be wrong though That's what I've heard in the past at least.

Cell phones affect recordings in the form of interference via cabling that isn't shielded well.   I don't think recorders enter into the equation at all, be it cassette, dat, hard drive or solid state based.

The error you posted sam is definitely not from a cell phone; it sounds digital in nature.  Have you played the files back with the cf card in the 671?

You said the cd's recorded via the analog out were clean when you were monitoring them at the show?  If that's the case then I'd think it was a CF card error.  The cf card could be going to shit, or maybe it's not fast enough for 24/48 (doubtful).  Also, when is the last time you formatted it?  That could cause some weird issue as well, if it wasn't formatted in awhile. 

I'd set up the gear EXACTLY the same way you did when you had the error, patching the cd recorder out of the analog outs and running the gain on the pre's in the same spot as well.  Jiggle all connectors, mess with the powering, etc.  Try and eliminate as many possible problems as possible.

[sam]

I first thing I tried was to put the card back in the 671 no luck.

I formatted last week week before OSFT, I cleared it but did not format for Keel.  The thing that is most baffling is the sound check was perfect, nothing moved all I did was powered on and off.

I will set it up same as Sat night tonight to try and recreate it.

[sam]

I first thing I tried was to put the card back in the 671 no luck.

I formatted last week week before OSFT, I cleared it but did not format for Keel.  The thing that is most baffling is the sound check was perfect, nothing moved all I did was powered on and off.

I will set it up same as Sat night tonight to try and recreate it.

SetSet everything up last night, the same digi noise occurred only once in an hour and and a half. Replaced the card with a freshly formatted card ran 1.5 hours no noise.  Then tried the first with with one of nicks batteries http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,78279.msg1046241.html#msg1046241 no noise on either card. So my conclusion is when taping in the case use only batteries with freshly formatted cards

[sygdwm]

fwiw, i always format(kingston 45X) before hitting the field.

[spreadheadtom]

fwiw, i always format(kingston 45X) before hitting the field.

what do you use to format?

The only device I can get to work is my camera.

[sam]

fwiw, i always format(kingston 45X) before hitting the field.

what do you use to format?

The only device I can get to work is my camera.

I was using the Marantz to format; I have used my computer with a card reader attached in the past for my camera.

[spreadheadtom]

What brand reader are you guys using?  price?

How do you format using the 671?  I haven't figured that out yet.

[sygdwm]

i use windoze. i transfer via usb, check both files, then format the card.

[spreadheadtom]

i use windoze. i transfer via usb, check both files, then format the card.

doesn't work for me