Topic: Rycote INV6 or INV7 for CMC with BAS?

[thunderbolt]

What model is best to use with a Schoeps/Kwon/NOLA bar?

If I had to buy new, I might get the MKIII based on the advice in this thread, but INV-6s are still a very good option.

Thanks, glad to hear it.  I was really starting to second-guess my decision.

[thunderbolt]

Got the INV6 today.  Man, they are small.  But I will say this:  the purchase it has on the mic is SOLID.  If there was enough force to shake the mic out, it would be probably be enough kill me and everything else for miles around .

[DigiGal]

Got the INV6 today.  Man, they are small.  I'll tinker with it a bit, but I think you folks may be right: I may exchange them for 7s or the Mk. III.

Yes INV 7's would be the way to go, you can always adjust the lyres down to INV 6 spacing if you want so they do offer greater flexibility.



Here's a question perhaps John Willett could answer or anyone else that knows...

What is the difference between the INV-HG mk II's and the INV-HG mk III's?  It appears that sometime after I purchased a MK II they were discontinued and replaced by the MK III's, they essentially look the same but Rycote must have changed something.

[John Willett]

Got the INV6 today.  Man, they are small.  I'll tinker with it a bit, but I think you folks may be right: I may exchange them for 7s or the Mk. III.

Yes INV 7's would be the way to go, you can always adjust the lyres down to INV 6 spacing if you want so they do offer greater flexibility.



Here's a question perhaps John Willett could answer or anyone else that knows...


What is the difference between the INV-HG mk II's and the INV-HG mk III's?  It appears that sometime after I purchased a MK II they were discontinued and replaced by the MK III's, they essentially look the same but Rycote must have changed something.

Yes - the attached picture at the bottom shows the options:-


Regarding the difference between the HG Mk.II and Mk.III the change was very minor it was just that the Mk.III had a larger screw tightening knob to get a tighter grip on the mic to prevent droop (see pictures - the Mk.III has the bigger knob).

[DigiGal]

Ahh, thanks for the HG revision number explanation I've been curious about that since discovering the Mk II was discontinued.  I had thought perhaps they might have changed the suspension tension of the lyres.  As you mentioned they are quite rigid as they're intended for boom use with longer/heavier mics, with lighter setups this is something to be aware of.

I use either the INV-7's or HG Mk II's depending on configuration and recording environment.  I carry an allen wrench in my kit in case the INV 7's need to spaced differently in the field which is seldom to never.  Perhaps one minor improvement that could perhaps be incorporated in them would be to replace the allen screw with a knurled thumb screw thus eliminating the need to carry a small allen wrench which could easily be misplaced.  All things considered they're the best isolation mounts available and should last a lifetime.

[pohaku]

Thanks!  I wondered about the same thing with regards to the MkII and MkIII.  The larger knob is nice.

[F.O.Bean]

^^^Thanks, hi and lo. I'm not sure which model I have, it came with other gear, but I like it a lot. I'll probably be selling my Schoeps shocks for a few new Rycotes. They are top-notch.

Exactly what I'll be doing soon. Bye Bye A20's

And Digi-Gal, thanks a lot for that video you posted above! I just saw it for the first time and it blew me away! That Hytrel material is no joke! I just ordered [2] INV6 from B+H! Only took me a few years to finally order them

[H₂O]

I use vintage SG20's for my CMMT 30 M311's then a Rycote B2B clip off the M311 to run my KCY - this way I get 2 sets of coincident aligned caps so I can compare sources


I run this off a Vark bar suspended with an A20S and it works very well


If I run just the KCY I use SGCm's with the Vark.


for my full body tube mics I run Rycote INV HG mk III's using an aluminum f.bob bar - I used to run a UMS 20 which was a nice bar but not nearly as rugged as the Rycote INV HG/f.bob bar setup  - I plan on getting another 2 sets of B2B clips so I can run 2 sets of Tube mics at the same time on one bar and mounts

[StuStu]

I now have 2 MKIII shocks and don't miss the A20s at all.

^^^Thanks, hi and lo. I'm not sure which model I have, it came with other gear, but I like it a lot. I'll probably be selling my Schoeps shocks for a few new Rycotes. They are top-notch.

Exactly what I'll be doing soon. Bye Bye A20's

And Digi-Gal, thanks a lot for that video you posted above! I just saw it for the first time and it blew me away! That Hytrel material is no joke! I just ordered [2] INV6 from B+H! Only took me a few years to finally order them

[F.O.Bean]

I now have 2 MKIII shocks and don't miss the A20s at all.

^^^Thanks, hi and lo. I'm not sure which model I have, it came with other gear, but I like it a lot. I'll probably be selling my Schoeps shocks for a few new Rycotes. They are top-notch.

Exactly what I'll be doing soon. Bye Bye A20's

And Digi-Gal, thanks a lot for that video you posted above! I just saw it for the first time and it blew me away! That Hytrel material is no joke! I just ordered [2] INV6 from B+H! Only took me a few years to finally order them

Same here! I sold my a20s's immediately after getting my INV6. Now I'm just getting [1] pair of the Rycote 042216 HG 82 Shore Lyres to upgrade one of my 72 Shore INV6 for when I run bigger than DIN bars, and I'll be 100% ALL set on my shockmounts!! I haven't thought twice about unloading my a20s's, in fact, I can't believe it took me this long to do it

I use vintage SG20's for my CMMT 30 M311's then a Rycote B2B clip off the M311 to run my KCY - this way I get 2 sets of coincident aligned caps so I can compare sources


I run this off a Vark bar suspended with an A20S and it works very well


If I run just the KCY I use SGCm's with the Vark.


for my full body tube mics I run Rycote INV HG mk III's using an aluminum f.bob bar - I used to run a UMS 20 which was a nice bar but not nearly as rugged as the Rycote INV HG/f.bob bar setup  - I plan on getting another 2 sets of B2B clips so I can run 2 sets of Tube mics at the same time on one bar and mounts

I found the B2B Rycote InVision clips earlier today. For $25/Pair, I'll definitely be getting a pair or two!

http://www.adorama.com/RY048488.html

[voltronic]

Chiming in with support of the Rycote mounts - they are outstanding.  Some of you may have seen this already, but I made my own DIY mounts using the softest 62-shore lyres.  I could have special ordered INV-6s from Redding with these softer lyres, but I went the DIY route because I wanted to save some money and didn't want or need the vertical angle adjustment.
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=171552.msg2132415#msg2132415

Apologies if I missed it here, but what is the spacing between the lyres on the INV-6?  Estimating from the image of the INV-7 that John posted, it looks to be around 30mm, which is pretty close to the 35mm spacing I decided on for my DIY mounts.

[if_then_else]

Apologies if I missed it here, but what is the spacing between the lyres on the INV-6?  Estimating from the image of the INV-7 that John posted, it looks to be around 30mm, which is pretty close to the 35mm spacing I decided on for my DIY mounts.

The spacing between the centers of the two drillholes at the bottom of the INV-6 is about 2.5 cm (= 1 inch) wide. As for the lyres themselves, they're of course a bit more flexible...

[F.O.Bean]

Apologies if I missed it here, but what is the spacing between the lyres on the INV-6?  Estimating from the image of the INV-7 that John posted, it looks to be around 30mm, which is pretty close to the 35mm spacing I decided on for my DIY mounts.

The spacing between the two lyres on an INV6 is 1" on the inside of each lyre. Add about 1/4" from the outside of each lyre